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I used to do summer work at a ski area near Queenstown, and although temperatures weren't recorded during summer, I do remember maximums being 13C or higher on most days , so I'm guessing the high would have averaged 15C+. The winter range (from memory), was -6C/-1C. That was at 1680m
What type of vegetation was there at that location?
I don't get why people are choosing the highland areas of southern Australia.
First, they are simply oceanic climates at a higher elevations that makes them cooler. The cold winters have almost nothing to do with continental influence, just a high elevation. This is also true because of the cool summers, there would be warmer summers and a larger seasonal variation if it actually took lots of continental influence. Simply a high elevation version of the oceanic/subtropical climates found in the region.
Also, cold winters aren't the only thing that makes a climate continental. It also needs warm to hot summers and a large seasonal variation. High summer highs only in the mid teens and winter highs above freezing, the seasonal difference is rather limited. Also, summers are way too cool, especially compared with the winters, to co Pete here. Continental doesn't just mean cool-cold winters it means COOL TO COLD WINTERS AND WARM TO HIT SUMMERS. These places simply don't hold up in that regard.
I would say the Andean front in central Argentina.
Places such as
Neuquen
Malargue
Maquinchao
Papa de Indios
These places have hot summers and also cool winters that can get snow and plenty of freezes. Also a larger difference beteeen the two.
For Australia, inland southern places such as
Wagga Wagga
Mildura
Albury
Canberra
Or even some highland places such as lithgow or cooma or orange.
These places get freezes in the winters and even some snow and hot summers with a significant difference between them and winter.
I don't get why people are choosing the highland areas of southern Australia.
First, they are simply oceanic climates at a higher elevations that makes them cooler. The cold winters have almost nothing to do with continental influence, just a high elevation. This is also true because of the cool summers, there would be warmer summers and a larger seasonal variation if it actually took lots of continental influence. Simply a high elevation version of the oceanic/subtropical climates found in the region.
Also, cold winters aren't the only thing that makes a climate continental. It also needs warm to hot summers and a large seasonal variation. High summer highs only in the mid teens and winter highs above freezing, the seasonal difference is rather limited. Also, summers are way too cool, especially compared with the winters, to co Pete here. Continental doesn't just mean cool-cold winters it means COOL TO COLD WINTERS AND WARM TO HIT SUMMERS. These places simply don't hold up in that regard.
I would say the Andean front in central Argentina.
Places such as
Neuquen
Malargue
Maquinchao
Papa de Indios
These places have hot summers and also cool winters that can get snow and plenty of freezes. Also a larger difference beteeen the two.
For Australia, inland southern places such as
Wagga Wagga
Mildura
Albury
Canberra
Or even some highland places such as lithgow or cooma or orange.
These places get freezes in the winters and even some snow and hot summers with a significant difference between them and winter.
What about Alice Springs? It has a larger range and lower record low than Wagga Wagga, hence more continental.
What about Alice Springs? It has a larger range and lower record low than Wagga Wagga, hence more continental.
Alice springs has predominantly warm winters so while they both get a good amount of summer heat, Alice springs misses out on the cool winter aspect that Wagga Wagga gets so I would say that it's slightly elsss contentental. However, it is quite impressive for its latitude and is one of the more continental areas in Australia.
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I would say the Andean front in central Argentina.
Places such as
Neuquen
Malargue
Maquinchao
Papa de Indios
These places have hot summers and also cool winters that can get snow and plenty of freezes. Also a larger difference beteeen the two.
These places get freezes in the winters and even some snow and hot summers with a significant difference between them and winter.
Maquinchao are one of most impressive,its location on North-Central Patagonia give its cold winters and warm to hot summers,here the last January and July :
Quite close to Ranfurly at 33.4C/-25.8C (NZ's biggest official range). Both with a similar altitude and latitude.
umm 10ºC of difference btw the record low for July and the record low of the next coldes month there? looks odd
For Argentina, the biggest range excluding Valle de los Patos (wichs isn't a town) is in Paso de Indios at -24.2C/39.9C, for a official station, and Rio Mayo at -27C/37C, for a unofficial station.
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Maquinchao are one of most impressive,its location on North-Central Patagonia give its cold winters and warm to hot summers,here the last January and July :
Unfortunately there arent much more stations on central Patagonia,they seems to have an great seasonal range.
Great insight, Ghost. It shows clearly that patagonian plateau is the only region capable to have subzero days and well above 30ºC maxs during the same year quite easily.
Note: actually these are the correct ogimet montly summaries for Maquinchao. For Argentina stations you always have to put 00:00UTC hour and rest one day in order to get the proper data:
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umm 10ºC of difference btw the record low for July and the record low of the next coldes month there? looks odd
For Argentina, the biggest range excluding Valle de los Patos (wichs isn't a town) is in Paso de Indios at -24.2C/39.9C, for a official station, and Rio Mayo at -27C/37C, for a unofficial station.
Great insight, Ghost. It shows clearly that patagonian plateau is the only region capable to have subzero days and well above 30ºC maxs during the same year quite easily.
Note: actually these are the correct ogimet montly summaries for Maquinchao. For Argentina stations you always have to put 00:00UTC hour and rest one day in order to get the proper data:
The high plateaus of central parts of Chubut and Santa Cruz may get very cold during thoses great cold waves,like I said,there arent many stations to we take a look.
(P.S. For me, "continental" means a climate that at least has some winter snowfall, in addition to some summer warmth. Uluru is not "continental", despite its big temperature difference between summer and winter.)
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