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View Poll Results: Tristan da Cunha or Edinburgh?
Tristan da Cunha 18 58.06%
Edinburgh 13 41.94%
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I prefer Edinburgh for more seasonality and variability. Tristan da Cunha would be nice in terms of never needing any heating or cooling for your house, though.
I think you would definitely need some heating for those ubiquitous wet, 14C days.
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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I'd prefer to inhabit Tristan's smaller neighbor Nightingale Island though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nighti...Island#Climate
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:33 PM
 
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I'd prefer to inhabit Tristan's smaller neighbor Nightingale Island though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nighti...Island#Climate
The record highs are obviously BS, there is no way a tiny island at that latitude thousands of miles from land can get to 36C. Skeptical of the summer average highs aswell.
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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The record highs are obviously BS, there is no way a tiny island at that latitude thousands of miles from land can get to 36C. Skeptical of the summer average highs aswell.
How hot is the Namib desert btw? I know the coast is rather cool, but what about the inland areas? Perhaps the hot air from the Southern African desert somehow reaches the island?
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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How hot is the Namib desert btw? I know the coast is rather cool, but what about the inland areas? Perhaps the hot air from the Southern African desert somehow reaches the island?
It can't.There is far too much ocean between them so will be greatly cooled before it ever reaches the island.

As an example, the northern coast of Tasmania rarely ever exceeds 30C even on hot northerly days, and that's only 200km of water seperating it from the heat source.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:08 PM
 
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Tristan da Cunha is the lesser of the two evils. Edinburgh has gotten over 77F/25C while Tristan never has (my criteria for minimal temperature for true warmth) but it doesn't make up for the far cooler averages overall.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Edinburgh. They're both terrible but I may as well choose the one with some sort of winter.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Edinburgh. They're both terrible but I may as well choose the one with some sort of winter.
Pretty much this.
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Old 10-12-2016, 02:51 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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The record highs are obviously BS, there is no way a tiny island at that latitude thousands of miles from land can get to 36C. Skeptical of the summer average highs aswell.
It looks a bit extreme but it's worth noting some things:

1, Tristan's weather station is at its exposed northern side, Nightingale at the sheltered southern side.

2, There are several islands surrounding Nightingale.

3, Tristan's warmest temps are said to occur at the same sheltered south-easterly side where the low-pressure systems don't hit with the same force.

4, Funchal, Madeira, albeit nearer the equator has hit 38.5 C at its sheltered side.

So yeah as for the record highs, it's doubtful, but the summer highs certainly aren't unrealistic if there's a batch of warm waters pushed northwards from the roaring 40's. According to Wiki, Nightingale is a favourite 'holiday home' for Tristanians, which would indicate it being warmer if true.
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Old 10-12-2016, 03:58 AM
 
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It looks a bit extreme but it's worth noting some things:

1, Tristan's weather station is at its exposed northern side, Nightingale at the sheltered southern side.
If anything, the southern side should be worse as it lies directly exposed to the cold southerlies. But with an island as tiny as Nightingale with only minimal elevation, it won't make much difference. The station is probably incorrectly sited in a cove or gully out of the wind or something or the instruments inadequately protected against solar radiation.

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2, There are several islands surrounding Nightingale.
Doesn't make a difference, those islands are literally microscopic in size.

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3, Tristan's warmest temps are said to occur at the same sheltered south-easterly side where the low-pressure systems don't hit with the same force.
Tristan is a bigger island with a 2000m volcano, which likely offers some degree of protection. Nightingale on the other hand is tiny and only rises to 350m so there is no real protection, so highly doubtful the temps will be any warmer in the southeast vs the north. Wind crossing 3km of land isn't going to warm up any great deal...

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4, Funchal, Madeira, albeit nearer the equator has hit 38.5 C at its sheltered side.
Madeira is much bigger, lower latitude, sits in warmer waters and is much closer to a much bigger and hotter source of heat. Plus Madeira has large mountains so there is the potential for foehn events.

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So yeah as for the record highs, it's doubtful, but the summer highs certainly aren't unrealistic if there's a batch of warm waters pushed northwards from the roaring 40's. According to Wiki, Nightingale is a favourite 'holiday home' for Tristanians, which would indicate it being warmer if true.
Record highs = no chance. The avg summer highs are suspect IMO for such a tiny island for the reasons I outlined above. There is another island nearby at 40S called Gough which has its station on the SE coast and only averages 17C in summer. Going from 17 to nearly 25C in 3* of latitude on a much smaller island seems unlikely. I reckon the station on Nightingale may be poorly sited or is not correctly set up against solar radiation.
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