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Old 02-09-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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What places in the world with fairly mild average highs in winter (8C-10C) have record lows around or close to -16C?

This is in contrast to Melbourne and Sydney's summers, with their rather mild highs (25C-26C) and their extreme high records (46C). Also Albany (23C average summer high, 45C record high).

Such extreme anomalies only occur here in the summer. Any places that experience such drastic temperature differences in the winter? I'm guessing US south?
Caçador have a record low of -14C with a July average high of 19.2C.
Other impressive is Malargue,with a record low of -24.6C and July average high of 10.9C.

Here some others towns :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Isabel,_La_Pampa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_Reynolds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melo,_Uruguay#Climate
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Old 02-09-2017, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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What places in the world with fairly mild average highs in winter (8C-10C) have record lows around or close to -16C?

This is in contrast to Melbourne and Sydney's summers, with their rather mild highs (25C-26C) and their extreme high records (46C). Also Albany (23C average summer high, 45C record high).

Such extreme anomalies only occur here in the summer. Any places that experience such drastic temperature differences in the winter? I'm guessing US south?
Wouldn't that be more comparable to a place with mild average lows but low record lows?



Ocala, FL has an average low of 7-8 C in January (with an average high of about 20-21 C lol) but has a record low of -12 C.


Tallahassee, FL has an average low of 4 C in January (an average high of 17 C) and a record low of -19 C (which actually occurred in February, that has average of 19/5).



Pretty much anywhere in the Deep South north of Orlando has record lows below -10 C with mild averages in winter.
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Wouldn't that be more comparable to a place with mild average lows but low record lows?



Ocala, FL has an average low of 7-8 C in January (with an average high of about 20-21 C lol) but has a record low of -12 C.


Tallahassee, FL has an average low of 4 C in January (an average high of 17 C) and a record low of -19 C (which actually occurred in February, that has average of 19/5).



Pretty much anywhere in the Deep South north of Orlando has record lows below -10 C with mild averages in winter.
As I said,Caçador have a record low of -14.1C with a average low in June of 6.0C, that is very cold for it latitude of 26S,the same as South Florida, but with a altitude of 920m.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%A7ador#Climate
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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As I said,Caçador have a record low of -14.1C with a average low in June of 6.0C, that is very cold for it latitude of 26S,the same as South Florida, but with a altitude of 920m.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%A7ador#Climate
It's also really far inland and extrapolating for typical lapse rates is at least 10F cooler than somewhere at sea level would be at it's latitude.

A good sea level (and on the coast) example at 25N in the U.S is Brownsville, TX. Average February low of 54.7F (12.6C) but a record low of 12F (-11C).
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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It's also really far inland and extrapolating for typical lapse rates is at least 10F cooler than somewhere at sea level would be at it's latitude.

A good sea level (and on the coast) example at 25N in the U.S is Brownsville, TX. Average February low of 54.7F (12.6C) but a record low of 12F (-11C).
None place at sea level here in South America can have a record low like thoses in US at sea level and with such high average low.
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Old 02-11-2017, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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Météo Climat stated that Vladivostok's weather station is at 189 m elevation... that'd be a game-changer for the actual climate of Vladivostok if true, does anybody know whether this is actually the case?

I've always found summer avg highs a bit fishy for Vladivostok and if the city center would have 24.5/19.0 temps in August that'd seem more poignant for its location.
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Old 02-11-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Météo Climat stated that Vladivostok's weather station is at 189 m elevation... that'd be a game-changer for the actual climate of Vladivostok if true, does anybody know whether this is actually the case?

I've always found summer avg highs a bit fishy for Vladivostok and if the city center would have 24.5/19.0 temps in August that'd seem more poignant for its location.
The highs are not fishy, Vladivostok is extremely cloudy and humid in summer.
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Old 02-11-2017, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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The highs are not fishy, Vladivostok is extremely cloudy and humid in summer.
So is Japan on the same latitude and 23C normals are absolutely not the case. If the weather station is indeed at 189 m asl I'd expect Vladivostok's urban center to be well above 24C in August and have quite boiling nights, almost reaching a dfa.
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Old 02-11-2017, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Finland
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So is Japan on the same latitude and 23C normals are absolutely not the case. If the weather station is indeed at 189 m asl I'd expect Vladivostok's urban center to be well above 24C in August and have quite boiling nights, almost reaching a dfa.
Vladivostok is not on an island.
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Old 02-11-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Caçador have a record low of -14C with a July average high of 19.2C.
Other impressive is Malargue,with a record low of -24.6C and July average high of 10.9C.
These two are really impressive. I think they win.
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