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View Poll Results: Christmas week climate battle
Miami 17 45.95%
Melbourne 16 43.24%
Vostok 2 5.41%
Yakutsk 2 5.41%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-14-2016, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Miami for not being well below zero Fahrenheit and less than 12 hour days.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Experiencing extreme cold and living extreme cold are two totally different things. Funny how most of the people who say they love the cold and want more of it actually choose to live in warm climates.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Rochester, NY
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It doesn't affect me in any way if someone wants -200 C or 100 C. If that's what they like, that's what they like. Big deal. Never understood why people on here get so triggered over people's preferences lol.


Coldest temp I've ever experienced is -37 C and I liked it. I want to experience colder than that honestly, even way colder than that.


Anyways, there's "extreme cold lovers" like Kamsack for example who lives in Grand Forks, ND, a climate that gets extreme cold somewhat often, that still want winters colder than Grand Forks lol. It gets annoying the assumption that people who prefer very cold winters or even extreme cold have never experienced it. It's the same dumbass argument over and over again on this forum lol. Does it ever occur to anybody that some people may in fact enjoy it?
It does in fact occur to me that people may enjoy extreme cold and I have no problem with people liking extreme cold. Since you've experienced-37C and enjoyed it, that's perfectly fine.

It's just that temperatures like -50C or -70C are very extreme and can be dangerous and then people who have experienced nothing colder than -20C say that it's their dream climate. Having a very extreme temperature you've never experienced as your dream climate, or that that's what they want most days for a month or more doesn't make sense. It seems to me kinda like they just want to sound cool or be proud that they have the coldest dream climate or want extra attention rather than they're actual dream climate.

Same thing as somebody who was never experienced anything over 40C claiming to want 70C summers as their dream climate.

If you experienced -20C or -30C and loved it, that's great. Make those the winter temps in your dream climate. Maybe colder if you want. But don't say you love -50C or -70C and that you want it every day for months cuz you have absolute no idea whether you like it or not and it's an extreme temp that would drastically change your way of life and is very different from the cold -20C that you liked.

Now experience -50C and enjoy it, no problem. That would be a legit, interesting dream climate. Nothing wrong with it.

Anyway, this is way off topic and this thread is about where you'd rather spend Christmas. I pick Vostok for being cold and snowy, but not overly cold and it wouldn't be too bad with the sun.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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It doesn't affect me in any way if someone wants -200 C or 100 C. If that's what they like, that's what they like. Big deal. Never understood why people on here get so triggered over people's preferences lol.


Coldest temp I've ever experienced is -37 C and I liked it. I want to experience colder than that honestly, even way colder than that.


Anyways, there's "extreme cold lovers" like Kamsack for example who lives in Grand Forks, ND, a climate that gets extreme cold somewhat often, that still want winters colder than Grand Forks lol. It gets annoying the assumption that people who prefer very cold winters or even extreme cold have never experienced it. It's the same dumbass argument over and over again on this forum lol. Does it ever occur to anybody that some people may in fact enjoy it?
Where did you experience -37C?
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Experiencing extreme cold and living extreme cold are two totally different things. Funny how most of the people who say they love the cold and want more of it actually choose to live in warm climates.
Completely ridiculous statement lol. I love when people say that people "choose" to live somewhere as if getting up and moving is something you do just from one day to another. I could just as easily say that it's funny how people who fantasize about living in year round warm climates choose to live in cool/cold climates.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:42 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Completely ridiculous statement lol. I love when people say that people "choose" to live somewhere as if getting up and moving is something you do just from one day to another. I could just as easily say that it's funny how people who fantasize about living in year round warm climates choose to live in cool/cold climates.
Agreed! If I could, I would move to Miami tomorrow and have year round warmth but like you said it is not so easy for many.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Melbourne for the longer days and chance at a heatwave.
I wonder what the chances of having a heat wave warm enough to swim in the ocean on Christmas day though. SST in Melbourne is around 62F. In Miami, it's around 73F. I would need an air temp over 90F to swim in the ocean in Melbourne (and even then it would be brief) but I'd only need an air temp of 75F or above to swim in Miami Beach. Of course, you could get an daily high of 110F in Melbourne and a rare 30/50 day in Miami but I'd just play the odds.

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Old 12-14-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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I'll go for Miami, better chance of cold weather than Melbourne (and also no chance of 40C temps) and not insanely cold like Vostok and Yakutsk.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:45 PM
 
Location: In transition
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I wonder what the chances of having a heat wave warm enough to swim in the ocean on Christmas day though. SST in Melbourne is around 62F. In Miami, it's around 73F. I would need an air temp over 90F to swim in the ocean in Melbourne (and even then it would be brief) but I'd only need an air temp of 75F or above to swim in Miami Beach. Of course, you could get an daily high of 110F in Melbourne and a rare 30/50 day in Miami but I'd just play the odds.
I have been to both Melbourne and Miami and there is no equivalent for South Beach but I like the ambiance better there. It seems more peaceful and I would not mind the 62F water if it is over 100F.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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I have been to both Melbourne and Miami and there is no equivalent for South Beach but I like the ambiance better there. It seems more peaceful and I would not mind the 62F water if it is over 100F.
Never been to Australia but have experienced low 60s water with 100F air temps during early spring heat waves here in Orange County. Also swam in upper 70sF water temps in Hawaii in the early morning hours in winter when the air temp was in the low 70s. One can last much longer in the water in the latter.
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