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Old 05-23-2017, 05:45 AM
 
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For here it looks better according to that model.
Yeah, a bit above average for the Northeast. I suspect the above average SSTs and maybe Central US trough will swing jet northward along the coast bringing warmer temps but also wetter conditions....




I can feel it... This summer here will likely be similar to that of 1993, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014 and 2015. All average to well below average temps and generally wet. Bet.
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:31 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/EdValleeWx/statu...83442294202370


and all this rain leads to this


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Old 05-23-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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scorching hot in Phoenix



https://twitter.com/NWSPhoenix/statu...86847309791232



Portland reached 90F/32C before Chicago. Gonna be one of those summers...


https://twitter.com/MDA_Weather/stat...11092366610432
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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Oh and Portland may see another 90 by the weekend...

https://twitter.com/MDA_Weather/stat...15038447616000
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: C: Home R: Monroe CT, Climate:Dfa
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scorching hot in Phoenix



https://twitter.com/NWSPhoenix/statu...86847309791232



Portland reached 90F/32C before Chicago. Gonna be one of those summers...


https://twitter.com/MDA_Weather/stat...11092366610432
At least Bradley Airport has a heatwave under its belt..... The only positive this crappy month has to offer...
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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2013 and 2015 were decent summers here, but I think it's because the Atlantic Ocean saved us
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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2013 and 2015 were decent summers here, but I think it's because the Atlantic Ocean saved us

And that may save you again. Not here though. Unless the Southern Plains can dry out and build some heat, this summer wont see much in the way of heatwaves for me...
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Yeah, a bit above average for the Northeast. I suspect the above average SSTs and maybe Central US trough will swing jet northward along the coast bringing warmer temps but also wetter conditions....




I can feel it... This summer here will likely be similar to that of 1993, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014 and 2015. All average to well below average temps and generally wet. Bet.

George, I hate to bring this up, but the really hot summers of 2010, 2011, and 2012 had something in common: the cold PDO. When the water right along the West Coast is colder than average we got really hot summers. We shall see.

When is the PDO going to flip back to cold or is that over and done? The shortest cold PDO in history I guess. They should have had at least 10 more years of cold PDO if history is anything to go by.
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Old 05-23-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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George, I hate to bring this up, but the really hot summers of 2010, 2011, and 2012 had something in common: the cold PDO. When the water right along the West Coast is colder than average we got really hot summers. We shall see.

When is the PDO going to flip back to cold or is that over and done? The shortest cold PDO in history I guess. They should have had at least 10 more years of cold PDO if history is anything to go by.
PDO is +1.12 , and there is a coolish pool of water off the PNW. Definitely no Warm Blob, but +PDO is here to stay...





SST change in last week






April PDO value and subsequent summers

2009: -1.65 one of the coldest summer on record
2010: +0.78 warm summer
2011: -0.42 warm summer
2012: -0.27 hot summer
2013: -0.16 cool summer
2014: +1.13 near normal few hot days
2015: +1.44 near normal but very cool July
2016: +2.62 above normal with normal hot days
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Old 05-23-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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PDO is +1.12 , and there is a coolish pool of water off the PNW. Definitely no Warm Blob, but +PDO is here to stay...





SST change in last week






April PDO value and subsequent summers

2009: -1.65 one of the coldest summer on record
2010: +0.78 warm summer
2011: -0.42 warm summer
2012: -0.27 hot summer
2013: -0.16 cool summer
2014: +1.13 near normal few hot days
2015: +1.44 near normal but very cool July
2016: +2.62 above normal with normal hot days

So I guess Joe Bastardi was wrong all that time he said the PDO was eventually flipping back to cold?
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