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Old 01-26-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Originally Posted by Junter View Post
I don't know which satellite photo is that, but Spain doesn't look like that. Spain looks like this:
Spain can look like either, it just depends on the time fo the year. That particular satellite image was probably from photos made in summer.



The arid areas of Spain are pretty exotic in an European context, nice to have them.




(my photos)



As for actual mediterranean climates, a lot aren't thunderless in summer. Nice gets 29 days with thunder per year, 10 of which in summer (JJA). An extreme example in France would be Perpignan with 25 stormy days, from which more than a half (14) happen in summer.
http://www.meteofrance.fr/documents/...%27740,5ko%27}


And as forgotten username said, copious rainfall, while a rare occurence in the core summer months, can still happen:
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de Montpellier (34)
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de Le Luc - Cannet des Maures (83)
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Singapore
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Really? 33C with low humidity sounds pretty pleasant. I dont start feeling overheated until it hits 40C with low humidity. I imagine for me there would only be a handful of days in Temecula where I would be truly uncomfortable walking outside.
33C and low humidity is fine for a week or a few days but it does get tiring for you know..5 months or so.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Any type of weather would get tiring after a few months of it. 33c and low humidity for five straight months sure as hell beats 5c with endless clouds, or 30c with 85% humidity
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Rozenn View Post
Spain can look like either, it just depends on the time fo the year. That particular satellite image was probably from photos made in summer.



The arid areas of Spain are pretty exotic in an European context, nice to have them.




(my photos)



As for actual mediterranean climates, a lot aren't thunderless in summer. Nice gets 29 days with thunder per year, 10 of which in summer (JJA). An extreme example in France would be Perpignan with 25 stormy days, from which more than a half (14) happen in summer.
http://www.meteofrance.fr/documents/...%27740,5ko%27}


And as forgotten username said, copious rainfall, while a rare occurence in the core summer months, can still happen:
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de Montpellier (34)
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de Le Luc - Cannet des Maures (83)
Of course.





Credit: https://www.viajacontufamilia.com/vi...n-cabo-de-gata

The only BWk and BWh climates from Europe can be found on Spain. Meanwhile, on the other hand, there also exists the ET (Tundra) climate on the Pyrenees, Cfa, Cfb, Dfb, etc... 13 different climates according to AEMET.






Credit: Viaje al Desierto de Tabernas en Almería o al Lejano Oeste español





Credit: http://www.triangle.cat/postales-sou...lmeria/tema-54





Credit: http://senderosalmariya.blogspot.com...san-pedro.html
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Yeah, it's cool to not have to travel to Nevada to see some semi-arid places. The rest of Europe is green, so it's cool that Spain has these places too. Maybe Turkey has some dry parts too but that's further already.
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Old 01-27-2017, 01:33 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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All these pictures being posted of a few patches of shrubs over rocks isn't really doing much against the argument that med climates can't really support forests. The only places in the mediterranean that seem to get a decent amount of rain are the Eastern Adriatic Sea and parts of Northwestern Italy, but as far as I know most of those places don't fit into the definition of a Csa or Csb
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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All these pictures being posted of a few patches of shrubs over rocks isn't really doing much against the argument that med climates can't really support forests. The only places in the mediterranean that seem to get a decent amount of rain are the Eastern Adriatic Sea and parts of Northwestern Italy, but as far as I know most of those places don't fit into the definition of a Csa or Csb
lol those are desertic and semiarid zones of Spain, kinda off topic for this thread; seems that you missed many of my posts maded some pages ago showing lots of zones with forests within Spain

no problem, I will put them again

Barx station of AEMET (Valencian community) has an average of rain of 1000mm per year. And it's a purely Mediterranean climate. That's 39.40 inches.





Mediterranean forest in Madrid:



Credit: Mi Pequeño Gran Mundo



Credit: Home - VisitMenorca.com



Credit: Mallorca - La isla que lo tiene todo





Credit: Ibiza, la combinación perfecta - NAUTALIA VIAJES - BLOG OFICIAL



Credit: Visit Altea – Turismo del Ayuntamiento de Altea, Alicante





Credit: Páginas > Parc de Collserola Backend

In those last 2 photos that's Barcelona, mediterranean climate for AEMET (Spanish met agency), humid subtropical climate for others, and a border climate for anothers. That's just Spain...

Ciudad Real, which from the satellite looks very semi-arid, it has a purely Mediterranean Csa climate and has lots of zones like this (Wikipedia image):





Credit: https://es.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/imgServer.do?id=8146113

Up the hill in Riopar, the town from above. Csb climate there, as the altitude is higher:









Credit for all of those last photos: http://www.spaincenter.org/turismo/a...nacimiento.htm

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Mediterranean climates are boring for weather nerds who crave constant change, temperature extremes, and precipitation. For the average person to live in, they're magnificent. Give me the maximum number of sunny, dry days with temps in the 70s, NO snow in the winter (except in the mountains), and NO hot, sticky summer nights, please.

The most ignorant thing the OP said is "The natural landscape is barren and rocky with plants that look like weeds growing everywhere instead of trees." Here's a photo of natural vegetation taken within walking distance of my house in Orange County, CA.
Take a look at this post. In the top of the page 3. Photo from Orange County, Ca. Being very similar to what I posted. Lots of green, natural vegetation.

All of those photos belong to Med. climates. And most get also snow in winters, not much but they get. I could also put photos from Sicily, Corsica, Sardinia, Greece etc and they would be very similar.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:55 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Parts of the Pacific Northwest (Victoria, Seattle and Portland) has a Csb Mediterranean climate according to Koppen and it is anything but barren and supports a forest ecosystem.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: In transition
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33C and low humidity is fine for a week or a few days but it does get tiring for you know..5 months or so.
I could never get tired of 33C and sunny with low humidity and besides, Temecula doesnt get 5 months of it anyway
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Parts of the Pacific Northwest (Victoria, Seattle and Portland) has a Csb Mediterranean climate according to Koppen and it is anything but barren and supports a forest ecosystem.
True! Also the north of SF (Baltimore Canyon Open Reserve & Muir Woods) is quite green and has a Csb climate.
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