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View Poll Results: Do you think that the lower 48 states in the United States will ever see a return to the severe arct
I feel it is only a matter of time before we see s return to such arctic outbreaks 17 73.91%
Not since we live in a changing/warming climate, it is very unlikely 5 21.74%
Other opinion(please explain your reasons for choosing this answer) 1 4.35%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-16-2017, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Do you think that the lower 48 states of America will ever see a repeat of the super arctic outbreaks that happened during the 1960's 1970's and 1980's?
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Old 02-16-2017, 10:28 PM
 
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Do you think that the lower 48 states of America will ever see a repeat of the super arctic outbreaks that happened during the 1960's 1970's and 1980's?
It did happen already, February and March 2015 were the coldest since the late 70s in the Northeast
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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2008-09 was a severe winter here. 2013-14 was very brutal. Feb-Mar 2015 were extremely cold



Once the AMO and PDO fall back into the same phase that they were in the 60's and 70's then you will have similar winters.


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Old 02-17-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Why wouldn't it be possible?
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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They've happened fairly recently, so I don't see why not.
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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Yes, of course. Climate change is causing more extremes, so I expect everywhere to get cold outbreaks as well as heatwaves.
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Do you think that the lower 48 states of America will ever see a repeat of the super arctic outbreaks that happened during the 1960's 1970's and 1980's?
If we look at climate records no period of time compares to the 60s-80s... they were not a normal period of time at all. I think to see a 30 year period like that again is not too common but to see a few years similar is common. I also feel that it's unfair to use 30 year periods of record and the 60s-80s are a prime example why, as are the 30s-50s. We should use 60 year periods imo. Also individual years similar to 60s-80s happen here and there, 2014 a good example.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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If we look at climate records no period of time compares to the 60s-80s... they were not a normal period of time at all. I think to see a 30 year period like that again is not too common but to see a few years similar is common. I also feel that it's unfair to use 30 year periods of record and the 60s-80s are a prime example why, as are the 30s-50s. We should use 60 year periods imo. Also individual years similar to 60s-80s happen here and there, 2014 a good example.
Muslim12, you've got a very good point; the 1960's through the 1980's were an unusual period of recordbesides that, you are also correct about mentioning the fact that single years similar to the 1960's-1980's still can occur here and there, bravo on making this sort of connectionI also agree that climate normals really ought to constitute a much larger ne'er period of record than using only a 30 year period of record. I personally think that climate data should have a period of record of at least 80 years, if not last longer. Kudos to you, your observation and your post on this thread
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Old 12-11-2022, 08:38 AM
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Do you think that the lower 48 states of America will ever see a repeat of the super arctic outbreaks that happened during the 1960's 1970's and 1980's?
Already happened. Multiple times.
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Old 12-11-2022, 09:52 AM
 
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Do you think that the lower 48 states of America will ever see a repeat of the super arctic outbreaks that happened during the 1960's 1970's and 1980's?
Not in FL in my lifetime at the rate of heating since 2011.
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