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Old 02-24-2017, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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That picture right there though is clearly summer, people in shorts, sunny skies, definitely summer.
Yes I know that one is, that isn't the photo I was talking about lol, I was just trying to find a photo showing the Holm Oaks...
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Old 02-24-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Yes I know that one is, that isn't the photo I was talking about lol, I was just trying to find a photo showing the Holm Oaks...
Holm oaks are hardy down to what temps?
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Holm oaks are hardy down to what temps?
I have no idea, they are native to the Mediterranean & are mostly grown in southern coastal areas, but they must be pretty cold hardy...

This is the photo I was talking about, it was taken in January, but people thought it was from the summer:
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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1929.9 hours in Stockholm 2002-16 is the most impressive mainland reading I've found so far, but a far cry from Visby yet, which in the 1991-2020 averages definitely will take this mantle.
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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I have no idea, they are native to the Mediterranean & are mostly grown in southern coastal areas, but they must be pretty cold hardy...

This is the photo I was talking about, it was taken in January, but people thought it was from the summer:
I can see why, had I not known the kind of person you were I would have argued the same but the dull look to the sky despite it being sunny makes me think its winter also. Not to mention the grass is very lush. Plus that palm is clearly not growing and has some sickly fronds so it must be winter.
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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I can see why, had I not known the kind of person you were I would have argued the same but the dull look to the sky despite it being sunny makes me think its winter also. Not to mention the grass is very lush. Plus that palm is clearly not growing and has some sickly fronds so it must be winter.
Well the sky can be a deeper blue than that in winter. The Brahea armata is planted right across the road from the beach, so gets battered by gales, that was also January 2011, right after the coldest December on record... This photo was taken that same day:
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:16 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Holm oaks are hardy down to what temps?
They are extremely cold hardy, down to -17c.
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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They are extremely cold hardy, down to -17c.
-17c? Why don't we grow them then, -17c equals 1.4f which is an uncommon temp here, last time we got that low was 2000. Apart from the live oaks we have a few species of semi evergreen oaks that hold on to their leaves mostly throughout the winter. How common is European hornbeam in London? the city of Raleigh tried to plant some but the summer heat fried them so they were removed. Think we should make a plants/weather thread because somehow we always end up discussing palms and evergreens in every thread lol.


http://www.ncufc.org/species-tolerance.php
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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holm oak in Spain is known as encina as it's one of the main trees found in the forests of central and central-south Spain and even at really high altitude places so they are able to support lows under -10ÂșC for some days without any kind of problem. In fact the Iberian Pigs eat their fruits



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Old 02-24-2017, 03:38 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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-17c? Why don't we grow them then, -17c equals 1.4f which is an uncommon temp here, last time we got that low was 2000. Apart from the live oaks we have a few species of semi evergreen oaks that hold on to their leaves mostly throughout the winter. How common is European hornbeam in London? the city of Raleigh tried to plant some but the summer heat fried them so they were removed. Think we should make a plants/weather thread because somehow we always end up discussing palms and evergreens in every thread lol.


Species Tolerance
They are a Mediterranean species so it's probably too wet in your location in the warm season.

Hornbeam is seen occasionally in parks and streets; there are a few round here but they are far more common in woodlands in SE England, mixed with oak and beech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpinus_betulus



Look around the suburbs on streetview and you will see that most of the trees are chestnuts, oaks, pines, sycamore, ash, laurel, cherry, eucalyptus, lombard poplar etc.. Close to rivers and lakes, willows are common.

Gardens are full of things like magnolia, palms, cordylines, yucca, flax, figs, loquat etc..

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