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Any hypothesis that cannot be falsified is meaningless.
What would the global warming (or cooling, or manmade climate-change) people take as a refutation of their hypothesis?...
CO2 within all time historical range (Not 33% out of ALL TIME range)
Global ice changing at historically normal rates, not disappearing rapidly.
Nearly unanimous consensus of people who study this saying that there was no human caused climate change? (Not including people who have "looked at both sides" whatever the hell that means).
This graphic didn't exist.
CO2 within all time historical range (Not 33% out of ALL TIME range) Global ice changing at historically normal rates, not disappearing rapidly.
Nearly unanimous consensus of people who study this saying that there was no human caused climate change? (Not including people who have "looked at both sides" whatever the hell that means).
This graphic didn't exist.
FYI, for much of the last 10,000 years there was less than half the summer Arctic Ice than our record low in 2007 and 2012
For the last 10,000 years, summer sea ice in the Arctic Ocean has been far from constant. For several thousand years, there was much less sea ice in The Arctic Ocean -- probably less than half of current amounts, according to a new study.
The bad news is that there is a clear connection between temperature and the amount of sea ice. And there is no doubt that continued global warming will lead to a reduction in the amount of summer sea ice in the Arctic Ocean.
The important thing is rate of change, not amount. I'm very aware there has been different amounts of global ice over time. I can't believe I have to spell this out.
*raises hand* I'm in the Charlotte, NC area. It was 22 degrees when I left the house this morning. That's cold.
Funny, I just looked at a stat for Charlotte area. There was crop loss this week from the Arctic Blast and I was checking into something..
Late March 1955 crops were destroyed in the south from Late cold blast. Then was one of the warmest winters followed in 1955-56 (2nd warmest in Charlotte). Climate was changing back then too?
CO2 within all time historical range (Not 33% out of ALL TIME range)
Global ice changing at historically normal rates, not disappearing rapidly.
Nearly unanimous consensus of people who study this saying that there was no human caused climate change? (Not including people who have "looked at both sides" whatever the hell that means).
This graphic didn't exist.
Wow! An entire 166 years out of 4.5 billion years of existence. Very convincing......NOT!
TWC just said this may end up as the coldest March on record.
I miss global warming!
I wouldn't go by anything The Weather Channel says or does. They give winter storms names when NOAA and NWS do not name winter storms and prefer the media not do so. They also royally screwed up the reporting on Tropical Storm Irene by crying about all the damage NYC was supposed to get when it was upstate NY that was going to get hammered if the storm stayed on its predicted track, and those of us who live up here already knew it the night before the storm hit. NYC didn't get anything worth talking about, whereas we had wide-scale and very severe flooding.
Fact is, where I am located, in the Albany NY area, we've had several days in the 50's and 60's this month. That's hardly normal for this time of year.
The important thing is rate of change, not amount. I'm very aware there has been different amounts of global ice over time. I can't believe I have to spell this out.
The rate of change in Arctic sea ice is also not unprecedented. Look at the Younger Dryas period where high latitude annual temps dropped/raised 5C+ in less than a decade and lasted for centuries
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The earth was well into our current interglacial era, an age of warming oceans and melting ice sheets, when a major cooldown suddenly arrived. It’s called the 8.2 kiloyear event–or the "8.2 ka" event in scientific shorthand. Evidence for the event came from those ice cores in Greenland: these early estimates suggested that temperatures dropped between 7 and 14 degrees Fahrenheit in less than 20 years. And that drop altered ocean currents, atmospheric circulation, and weather patterns around most of the planet. In geological time scales, that's abrupt.
That doesn't mean it's not worrisome for the ecology of the high latitudes and won't have an impact on the mid latitudes. Also, the cause of change in the past might be different to the cause of change today (say orbital changes vs changes in greenhouse gasses)
In most of the Northeast US yes. In addition to record cold March in 2014 and 2015, record cold February in 2015, record cold January 2014, etc
And you can counter that with temperatures in the 70's in December 2015, as well as February 2017. In the Albany NY area we have had temperatures in the 50's to lower 60's several times in the last 2 months. I can remember going out and riding my bike the day we turned the clocks forward in March 2012 because it was so warm out. 58 degrees. March 2012 was the warmest March on record up here. 2016 is also in the Top 10 for Albany.
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