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I think seasons and warmth are highly subjective anyway.
These days we're having 23c sunny afternoons mostly, while the evenings are cool / chilly as they should be.
I am in jeans / tshirt with a light jacket in my bag for shade / wind / etc (i leave home for a few hours in general, so I prefer to pack something even if I don't wear it much)
English tourists are already in tank tops / shorts / flip flops
Some of the locals are still wearing down jackets / scarves / sweaters, even in bright sun at 2 pm.
London definitely has 4 distinct seasons. The fact that the temperatures are more restrained than in many climate zones doesn't change this fact.
At least something that's highly distinctive in England is that being up north and al, the large differences of daylength between summer and winter give distinct seasonal impressions, although I believe some july days must be cooler than some january days, most years.
At least something that's highly distinctive in England is that being up north and al, the large differences of daylength between summer and winter give distinct seasonal impressions, although I believe some july days must be cooler than some january days, most years.
That and the fact that trees in winter are barren, and the ground is almost always wet and swampy, whereas in the summer the trees have bloomed and the ground is generally dry and firm, sunshine levels have also noticeably improved in summer.
It's not unheard of for some summer lows to drop below winter highs. Although it's very uncommon for summer highs to get down to winter numbers. I'm sure B87 will be able to deny or confirm this.
Las Vegas, Phoenix, Mecca, Doha, Ahvaz, Kuwait City, Marble Bar, Baghdad, etc. All of these places would find an average high of 35C relatively cool at the height of summer.
Although the point I'm making is that the world has different temperature standards, but that doesn't change the fact that most places have distinct seasons regardless of their temperatures. London has a distinct four season climate, period. Not a single credible climatologist would dispute this.
I'm not going to say anymore about London, because it risks derailing the thread and turning it into yet another London discussion, as if we don't have enough of those already...
That and the fact that trees in winter are barren, and the ground is almost always wet and swampy, whereas in the summer the trees have bloomed and the ground is generally dry and firm, sunshine levels have also noticeably improved in summer.
It's not unheard of for some summer lows to drop below winter highs. Although it's very uncommon for summer highs to get down to winter numbers. I'm sure B87 will be able to deny or confirm this.
Well, not winter numbers, but I don't think it would that rare that the high in London could fail to reach, say, 16c in full summer. And conversely, I believe there are some milder winter days where this kind of temp must be reached as well. In neither case we're talking about winter weather, what I felt was that London could have spring/fall weather all year. At least that's my impression looking from here. Even large parts of France are concerned with that, although to a lesser extent, so I believe the quintessential oceanic climate should be like this as well.
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