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Old 04-20-2017, 04:58 PM
 
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Compare coldest places in Siberia/Mongolia/Manchura to Northern North America.

Ulaanbaatar is relatively same latitude and longitude from ocean to Minneapolis. But it is colder on average. Why is that?

What about say Saskatoon, Prince Albert, or Fort McMurray to cities just east of Urals like Omsk, Novosibirsk, Irkuytsk?

or How about Saguenay to Khabarovsk or Harbin?

Which is generally colder in winter between Old World and New World?
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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The Great Lakes. The Siberian high influence.

Seven words enough to answer your question
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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The Great Lakes. The Siberian high influence.

Seven words enough to answer your question
The Great Lakes is to Saskatoon, Prince Albert, and Fort McMurray as Mars is to Venus--or just about. What's your point?
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Syrmia, Northern Serbia, near 45 N
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Cities at the almost same latitude

Labrador City, Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labrador_City#Climate

Kyzyl, Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyzyl#Climate
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Cities at the almost same latitude

Labrador City, Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labrador_City#Climate

Kyzyl, Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyzyl#Climate
Both of these are on the same latitude as London. Holy ****
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Syrmia, Northern Serbia, near 45 N
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Both of these are on the same latitude as London. Holy ****
Both climates are terrible, but I vote for Kyzyl, because there is no summer in Labrador City.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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Compare coldest places in Siberia/Mongolia/Manchura to Northern North America.

Ulaanbaatar is relatively same latitude and longitude from ocean to Minneapolis. But it is colder on average. Why is that?

What about say Saskatoon, Prince Albert, or Fort McMurray to cities just east of Urals like Omsk, Novosibirsk, Irkuytsk?

or How about Saguenay to Khabarovsk or Harbin?

Which is generally colder in winter between Old World and New World?
just speculating... while the distance to the sea is similar, ulaan baatar has much more landmass to the west. it's also constantly affected by the siberian high in winter, as is evident by the ridiculous low all-time high in january: -2.6C. that's 13C lower than e.g fairbanks, that has a lower january average temperature. add to that the fact that ulaan batar is 1300masl.
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Syrmia, Northern Serbia, near 45 N
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Ulaangom (Mongolia) is at same latitude as Regina (Saskatchewan), and Ulaangom has a much colder winters than Regina.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulaangom#Climate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina...chewan#Climate
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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Ulaanbaatar is 3º north of Minneapolis and more than 1000 meters higher, this is more than enough to roughly explain why the former is significantly colder.

In case of the annual range, Asia is a bigger landmass than North America, hence the difference between summer and winter gets bigger too. Then, the relative location of a place respect to the winter highs/summer lows works about the same way in both continents, providing similar climate patterns and average temperatures for equivalent sites. Finally, the diverse geographic features of each one will bring 'assymetries' here and there.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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Ulaanbaatar is 3º north of Minneapolis and more than 1000 meters higher, this is more than enough to roughly explain why the former is significantly colder.

In case of the annual range, Asia is a bigger landmass than North America, hence the difference between summer and winter gets bigger too. Then, the relative location of a place respect to the winter highs/summer lows works about the same way in both continents, providing similar climate patterns and average temperatures for equivalent sites. Finally, the diverse geographic features of each one will bring 'assymetries' here and there.
I did not know it was higher elevation. But also I hear Ulaanbaatar gets sweltering hot in summer. Shouldnt the summers be cooler due to elevation or did I just hear wrong?
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