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View Poll Results: Which has the best climate?
Spain 12 35.29%
Argentina 22 64.71%
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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You won't find anywhere else in the world with more than 13 Köppen climates in less than 480.000km2 just as in Spain... the official size of Spain also includes the islands and all of the climates can be found on mainland Spain so you have to subtract the size of the islands... that's about 480.000km2 or so.
But I will. The Cuyo region in Argentina (integrated by Mendoza, San Luis and San Juan provinces), occupying an area of only 315.000 sq km, has at least 13 Köppen climates:

BSh (San Juan Metro Area)
BSk (San Juan Airport)
BWh (Las Trancas, San Luis)
BWk (Uspallata, Mendoza)
Cfb (La Consulta, in Valle de Uco, Mendoza)
Cfc (no station, surely in higher areas west of Valle de Uco)
Csb (Bardas Blancas, Mendoza)
Csc (No station, just go to higher, sloppy areas close to Bardas Blancas)
Cwa (Villa Reynolds, San Luis)
Cwb (La Carolina, San Luis)
Dsc (Los Patos Upper Valley, San Juan)
ET (Cristo Redentor, Mendoza)
EF (No station, Aconcagua peak is an obvious option)

If we set the C/D threshold in 0ºC some places like Puente del Inca, Mendoza, become Dsb, and maybe Dfc near Valle de Uco. If we extend Cuyo into Western Córdoba, we’ll have Cwc in Pampa de Achala, and perhaps Dwc with the threshold in 0ºC.

It doesn’t mean Cuyo is already almost as varied as the whole of Argentina. It definitely isn’t, but you can easily see here how flawed the count of Köppen climates is. You just need areas that happen to go across some thresholds –at least marginally- and all of a sudden you’ll get tons of them. The fact that Spain and Argentina have a similar amount of Köppen climates don’t tell us that they are equally diverse, but that counting Köppen climates is an awful method to compare climate diversity.

This XY graph correlates Average precipitation and Precipitation seasonality for many stations of Argentina, and provides further information via coloring to show ranges of average temperature, so there are three parameters involved. You can how all of the corners are complete and how most of them have wide thermal variety (being the Mediterranean based areas the least varied in this regard).



Try filling up this table with stations of Spain and we’ll get a better and more visual way to compare both countries in terms of climate diversity.

More information here: //www.city-data.com/forum/weath...argentina.html
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Is there any city in Gran Chaco with an annual mean above 22°C ?

I didn't know that, in the Köppen map Argentina doesn't appear with tropical climates.
There aren't too many stations with climate data up there, but Embarcacion (one of the only ones I could find) has an annual mean of 22.6°C, ranging from 16.1°C in Jun&Jul to 27.3°C in Dec&Jan. And it is Cwa with a very dry winter and humid wet hot summer.

There are warmer places north and east, but few weather stations
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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Perhaps El Junter will "get laid" with El Garett tonight?

In other words j***ing off since they're the same person?
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Perhaps El Junter will "get laid" with El Garett tonight?

In other words j***ing off since they're the same person?
If you sit on your hand until it goes dead it feels like someone else is doing it, apparently
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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Now, now guys. We're heading straight towards getting this closed down

Stay on topic!
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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lommaren I'm not gay to have sex with a male friend. Btw lommaren, there are ways of making sex which aren't self pleasure... be calm, your day will arrive too although you can ask a love professional (yes, a prostitute) to help you as it's pretty sad to be virgin at 26 yo.

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But I will. The Cuyo region in Argentina (integrated by Mendoza, San Luis and San Juan provinces), occupying an area of only 315.000 sq km, has at least 13 Köppen climates:

BSh (San Juan Metro Area)
BSk (San Juan Airport)
BWh (Las Trancas, San Luis)
BWk (Uspallata, Mendoza)
Cfb (La Consulta, in Valle de Uco, Mendoza)
Cfc (no station, surely in higher areas west of Valle de Uco)
Csb (Bardas Blancas, Mendoza)
Csc (No station, just go to higher, sloppy areas close to Bardas Blancas)
Cwa (Villa Reynolds, San Luis)
Cwb (La Carolina, San Luis)
Dsc (Los Patos Upper Valley, San Juan)
ET (Cristo Redentor, Mendoza)
EF (No station, Aconcagua peak is an obvious option)

If we set the C/D threshold in 0ºC some places like Puente del Inca, Mendoza, become Dsb, and maybe Dfc near Valle de Uco. If we extend Cuyo into Western Córdoba, we’ll have Cwc in Pampa de Achala, and perhaps Dwc with the threshold in 0ºC.

It doesn’t mean Cuyo is already almost as varied as the whole of Argentina. It definitely isn’t, but you can easily see here how flawed the count of Köppen climates is. You just need areas that happen to go across some thresholds –at least marginally- and all of a sudden you’ll get tons of them. The fact that Spain and Argentina have a similar amount of Köppen climates don’t tell us that they are equally diverse, but that counting Köppen climates is an awful method to compare climate diversity.

This XY graph correlates Average precipitation and Precipitation seasonality for many stations of Argentina, and provides further information via coloring to show ranges of average temperature, so there are three parameters involved. You can how all of the corners are complete and how most of them have wide thermal variety (being the Mediterranean based areas the least varied in this regard).



Try filling up this table with stations of Spain and we’ll get a better and more visual way to compare both countries in terms of climate diversity.

More information here: //www.city-data.com/forum/weath...argentina.html
Ok tomorrow I'll post the official AEMET rain maps, temp maps etc.

Btw I see that 2 climates from there are suppositions, on the 1st page you have the official climate map of Spain showing 13 climates.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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lommaren I'm not gay to have sex with a male friend. Btw lommaren, there are ways of making sex which aren't self pleasure... be calm, your day will arrive too although you can ask a love professional (yes, a prostitute) to help you as it's pretty sad to be virgin at 26 yo.
Why are you still on here? Get partying man!

Tomorrow we talk climates.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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Why are you still on here? Get partying man!

Tomorrow we talk climates.
Bro I'm drinking a pint in a pub. A 0.5L beer here is 2€, in a disco is 5 or 6€ XD I'm not rich bro. I also lost 15 in the casino.

We just saw a live striptease spectacle... for free.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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Bro I'm drinking a pint in a pub.
The conversation must be dull!
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Must be a really sh*t bar & sh*t company if you are sat on a forum lol
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