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I suppose it depends on your definition of 'warm'. I wear shorts 5 months of the year in this climate, and sometimes in the Winter if it gets up to 16°C
I wear shorts and t shirt over 22°C, but if it's 18°C like it were in Edinburgh last week where I was and I'm walking fast I will sweat. It depends a lot, it maybe be -3°C and I wear just a jumper under the bright sun and snow on the ground.
Olives? - I've looked into olive growing in the UK, and it's not really a happening thing. Grapes/wine are produced there, but it's not a great climate for them.
Don't ignore the impact of frost -my area is warmer and sunnier, and by bigger margins, than areas to the west of here. But the absence of frosts in those areas, means they can grow fruit that can't really be grown here.
Olives aren't a big thing Joe ,but they are grown in gardens - something that wouldn't be possible in say Scotland i'm guessing .
Grapes do fine these days - vinyards a plenty in the osuth east - doesn't have to be that hot in summer . 23c max average does the trick . Isn't it all to do with positioning on slopes and soil types etc as well . It's pretty flat here so i'd have though that might have been more of an obstacle - and late frosts can be a hazards as seen in Europe this year . Chance of a lvery ate frost is more likely in the SE/UK than mainland Europe which surprises me
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Oh trust me, I'm not arguing that whatsoever. What I just find laughable is the fact that these people literally will grade another climate an entire letter grade or two lower over what at the end is a very small difference. It'd be like someone rating Miami an F and West Palm Beach a C. Lol.
Alex ,doesnt grading depend on preference ? If you like boiling hot summers ,the UK would get an E quite rightly ,and a D if you like bone chilling winters and 20 foot of snow .
In the USA there are fantastic and horrid climates all in one country -some only small distances from one another .
Personally my favourite and worst climates are all within 600 miles of the UK .
Both the UK and Germany have very little climatic diversity for spanning quite far from North to South. Hamburg and Munich have basically the same climate.
Isn't Munich high elevation though . But agree on your point overall -in fact i'd say Germany has even less diversity .
If you did away with the south coast on France ,France would be the clear winner imo
Olives aren't a big thing Joe ,but they are grown in gardens - something that wouldn't be possible in say Scotland i'm guessing .
Grapes do fine these days - vinyards a plenty in the osuth east - doesn't have to be that hot in summer . 23c max average does the trick . Isn't it all to do with positioning on slopes and soil types etc as well . It's pretty flat here so i'd have though that might have been more of an obstacle - and late frosts can be a hazards as seen in Europe this year . Chance of a lvery ate frost is more likely in the SE/UK than mainland Europe which surprises me
Quality wines need either good heat or an extended growing season. The UK like NZ, relies on the extended growing season, but sunshine and temperatures drop off too rapidly there and quality suffers.
Positioning is important in marginal conditions, or where late frosts can be an issue. Around here conditions are such, that positioning only applies to frost, as grapes will still get good ripening conditions, regardless of aspect..
The UK has produced some top 10 sparkling wines, no surprise one of those was in the notably warm summer of 2003
That says something, as sparkling wine here, is considered a last option if a crop is of low quality.
I would like to try and English wine though, but I think it's greatest strength would be that it would appeal to British consumers, rather than having a climate suitable for premium wine production.
That says something, as sparkling wine here, is considered a last option if a crop is of low quality.
I would like to try and English wine though, but I think it's greatest strength would be that it would appeal to British consumers, rather than having a climate suitable for premium wine production.
Well a couple did win international competitions, despite there a relatively small industry here. I assume most aren't great, and we have France just across the water, hard to compete with that.
Most Brits are perfectly happy to drink French wine. In fact we consume so much of it that it's considered to give the UK significant negotiating leverage with France in terms of trying to secure a respectable trade deal
the bit i don't get with wine growing is the fact that there are vinyards in Cornwall - that is the last place you'd get summer heat - what sort of wine do they produce down there ?
the bit i don't get with wine growing is the fact that there are vinyards in Cornwall - that is the last place you'd get summer heat - what sort of wine do they produce down there ?
Gets less cold nights though, and above average sunshine by UK standards.
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