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That shows the mean in London was 3.8°C in February or about 1.5°C below average. March was 6.5°C or about 1.1°C below average. How do those deviations stack up historically? Coldest in how many years?
Meanwhile NYC is wrapping up its coldest April in 34 years. Not sure what March was like there--I don't think it was hot though.
February was the coldest since 1996.
March was the coldest since 2013 (though that year was the coldest March on record).
March was the 4th cloudiest on record, and the first half of April was easily the cloudiest on record. As it stands, April will probably fail to get above 60% of average sun hours.
That shows the mean in London was 3.8°C in February or about 1.5°C below average. March was 6.5°C or about 1.1°C below average. How do those deviations stack up historically? Coldest in how many years?
Meanwhile NYC is wrapping up its coldest April in 34 years. Not sure what March was like there--I don't think it was hot though.
March was cold in NY but February was the warmest on record for NY beating 2017. For two years in a row March was colder than February in NY even with the higher sun angle and longer days.
Feb 2018: 42.0°F | March 2018: 40.1°F
Feb 2017: 41.6°F | March 2017: 39.2°F
Maybe you guys have been hogging all the warmth ? Like the last photo with the village by the lake on a small hillside the best; looks very cute
It's not a village, but a banlieue. Only 10 or so km from central Paris.
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huh. the sunset photos are there?
You've posted the same photo twice.
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you mean when you visited NYC?
I meant historically, as the habit mostly spread from New York.
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Couldn't agree more. Their towns and cities are simply stunning. Not sure why our cities look so crap in comparison, and our suburbs are hell on earth. Old towns around here don't even look anywhere as nice as European towns. They value surroundings, Americans only care about dollars and run away capitalism. ugh!
There's a hell of a lot of ugly stuff, I just don't tend to take photos of it. I for one would prefer if residential streets were lined with untrimmed trees instead of ugly fences and hedges like in America.
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What Europe gets nowadays like the PNW are very brief cold periods followed by what seems endless warmth, while we get stuck in cold patterns since 2010 that seem to last months. Both Europe and the Western US are warming far faster than we are it is based on NOAA facts. We are probably the slowest place on the planet to actually warm significantly compared to a place like Zagreb.
Would like to see data to back up these claims. Here are the above average months for Paris-Orly over the past few years:
January: 6 of 9
February: 4 of 9
March: 5 of 9
April: 4 of 8
May: 3 of 8
June: 5 of 8
July: 6 of 8
August: 4 of 8
September: 4 of 8
October: 5 of 8
November: 5 of 8
December: 6 of 8
2.5 months of below average crap, not to mention extremely wet and cloudy compared to normal.
I would gladly take that. How bout five months or six months in a row below, with maybe one month in between above. then we have the months with day after day below avg, and two days in the 80's F skews the avg to make it look normal but in reality day after day was cold.
Not sure about the UK, but Seattle is looking at another hot dry summer while they say May here is same old same old. Seattle just never seems to get sustained month after month of cold. Ugh!!!
btw, don't fret over a bad spring, as I follow UK meteo's on twitter and they say the same thing as ours. You cannot correlate with any accuracy a cold spring = cold summer. It just doesn't match up consistently at all they say.
Very different patterns happen by early June and can last till October. Don't give up yet on having a good summer. It's the only hope I'm holding on to that this pattern breaks for good sometime soon.
It's not a village, but a banlieue. Only 10 or so km from central Paris.
You've posted the same photo twice.
I meant historically, as the habit mostly spread from New York.
There's a hell of a lot of ugly stuff, I just don't tend to take photos of it. I for one would prefer if residential streets were lined with untrimmed trees instead of ugly fences and hedges like in America.
Would like to see data to back up these claims. Here are the above average months for Paris-Orly over the past few years:
January: 6 of 9
February: 4 of 9
March: 5 of 9
April: 4 of 8
May: 3 of 8
June: 5 of 8
July: 6 of 8
August: 4 of 8
September: 4 of 8
October: 5 of 8
November: 5 of 8
December: 6 of 8
57 of 99 = 58% above average
What about Philly?
I'll work on it this weekend and post it. Like I said though, two or three days here way above avg skew many months to make them look warm, when in reality majority of days were below.
I don't know but I have yet to see ugly towns in France on streetview. Did you mean France has ugly fences and hedges or we have untrimmed trees? American suburbs are grotesque. Here take a look at some of ours outside the city:
These houses are so cheaply built with problems galore water, mold, creaky cheap flooring, bad roofs, etc etc. They are thrown together in weeks. Ugh.
Honestly you have nothing to complain about with regards to how your April has unfolded. Unlike people in North America who have reason to feel slighted.
I would gladly take that. How bout five months or six months in a row below, with maybe one month in between above. then we have the months with day after day below avg, and two days in the 80's F skews the avg to make it look normal but in reality day after day was cold.
Not sure about the UK, but Seattle is looking at another hot dry summer while they say May here is same old same old. Seattle just never seems to get sustained month after month of cold. Ugh!!!
btw, don't fret over a bad spring, as I follow UK meteo's on twitter and they say the same thing as ours. You cannot correlate with any accuracy a cold spring = cold summer. It just doesn't match up consistently at all they say.
Very different patterns happen by early June and can last till October. Don't give up yet on having a good summer. It's the only hope I'm holding on to that this pattern breaks for good sometime soon.
I think there hasn't been a summer month below average since 2012 and probably one September and one or two Mays. The new pattern has warmer and drier May-September, much wetter November-March. April and October can go either way.
Honestly you have nothing to complain about with regards to how your April has unfolded. Unlike people in North America who have reason to feel slighted.
I have every reason to complain about what will likely be the cloudiest spring ever recorded (to go with 6 of the 10 cloudiest summers on record having been recorded since 2007).
I think summer 2018 will join that list, seeing as in the last 10 years, we've had 1 sunnier than average summer, 1 average summer, and 8 cloudier than average summers.
The most recent occasions where a summer month recorded at least average or above average sunshine were: June 2017, July 2014, June 2014, July 2013, June 2010, July 2006.
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Like the last photo with the village by the lake on a small hillside the best; looks very cute
I for one would prefer if residential streets were lined with untrimmed trees instead of ugly fences and hedges like in America.
