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I know you see no benefits of climate classifications but the rest of the world does. Whence, they're tempted to use vegetation as the basis for their schema. However, at best such an approach is only partly useful.
And the limitations are not just to do with knowledge of botany (although ignorance in the field certainly doesn't help) but more to do with the fact that types of vegetation correlate rather poorly with types of climate. It's sort of like trying to guess someone's age when all you know is their hair colour.
Classification doesn't explain the vegetation of a place -there is just somewhat of a correlation. The reason for that is obvious.
Climate absolutely explains the vegetation of a place. The reason for that is obvious,
Classification doesn't even really describe climate imo -while I agree that Bergen has the same classification as my area, there's no way I see it as having the same actual climate.
I'm surprised that such a devotee of botany as yourself--a field where classification is the cornerstone of our progress and understanding--fails to understand how beneficial it is in climatology.
Which is greener in winter do you guys think Alpine, Australia with places like Thredbo or Atlanta? Thredbo has native eucalyptus evergreen forests but is much colder than Atlanta in winter.
I'm surprised that such a devotee of botany as yourself--a field where classification is the cornerstone of our progress and understanding--fails to understand how beneficial it is in climatology.
Climate genetics are well explained by classification, but the rest of the natural world runs on a progression that ignores the arbitrary cutoff points that classifications try to impose.
Which is greener in winter do you guys think Alpine, Australia with places like Thredbo or Atlanta? Thredbo has native eucalyptus evergreen forests but is much colder than Atlanta in winter.
I can actually show you what this looks like. This is Thredbo in the garbage winter of 2006 (the worst ever ski season).
Apologies for the loads of photos!
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There wasn't no snow though. I think the snow gums look really attractive with snow on them.
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This is Falls Creek in Victoria in the better winter of 2008
Thanks for these awesome pics of snow gums I find it amazing that a eucalyptus can be so hardy and tolerate so much snow. I wish we planted more of them here and I think Vancouver is mild enough in winter to grow them.
Which is greener in winter do you guys think Alpine, Australia with places like Thredbo or Atlanta? Thredbo has native eucalyptus evergreen forests but is much colder than Atlanta in winter.
Atlanta grows Eucs they just aren’t native. I would think during the last ice age those Australians Thredbo eucs were killed off but easily re-established from northern Australia. China has loads more broadleaf evergreens cause no seed block. Direct tropics connection with Vietnam for re-establishing after ice age. The southern US was not glaciated, but lost loads of broadleaf evergreens during ice age. Afterwards a seed block from tropics ( Carib sea) and desert SW blocked restablishment of hardy or evolving broadleaf evergreens. Poor soil locations in SE and you have loads of broadleaf evergreens. Rich river bottom land soil heavily dominated by deciduous from after ice age. Deciduous need rich soil as they are only “alive” half the year. Broadleaf evergreens get nutrition and solar energy all year round and survive in poor soil where deciduous cannot. Maybe Australian soil is mostly poor where those Eucs dominate.
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I find it amazing that a eucalyptus can be so hardy and tolerate so much snow. I wish we planted more of them here and I think Vancouver is mild enough in winter to grow them.
