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View Poll Results: How will you react when the Sandhills return to flowing sand dunes?
I would laugh at all the people in those states and scoff “I Told You So” 1 3.13%
I would probably be willing to pay extra money for corn and wheat products 5 15.63%
I really wouldn’t care one way or the other 11 34.38%
Other opinions(please express what you would think and feel) 17 53.13%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-01-2019, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Trondheim, Norway - 63 N
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Our oceans are becoming increasingly acidic as a result of all this CO2; enough so that it is increasingly difficult for these organisms to grow their skeletons. We are getting really close to the point where oceanic environments are so loaded with CO2 that our plankton will not be able to grow them at all. When that happens it's lights out not only for them but for the rest of us as well.....

Yes it is indeed bad. However, recent research has found that some of those small organisms can fight this acidification (if they have enough food/energy) and will not loose their carbonate easily.
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Old 04-01-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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Yes it is indeed bad. However, recent research has found that some of those small organisms can fight this acidification (if they have enough food/energy) and will not loose their carbonate easily.
Good to know. Will there be enough of them, though, that can do that?
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Old 04-01-2019, 04:55 PM
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Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Markets will adjust, farmers will adapt, consumers will have enough to eat.

If the Midwest became like the Sahara, then we'd irrigate it with water from the Great Lakes and from coastal desalination plants. People would cool their homes with solar. Home gardeners would have a longer growing season.

But, it's hard to imagine this happening. There's a lot of water in the Midwest and Great Plains. It's going to continue to be the nation's breadbasket for a long time to come.



Yes, lets screw over the whales and fish because we didn't take care of our land I really wish people would get more educated on the dangers of these "desalination plants."
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:52 PM
 
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We are already considering moving out of the country. I apologize for the intrusion of politics in this thread, but if the current political climate continues we feel it will be time to leave within the next 5-6 years. If not sooner.

BTW Nebraska is not the breadbasket of our country.
Nothing can be done to stop what is to come. The damage has been done. Plus our planet has seen huge changes in the weather over many millions of years. I could beam off every person and car off this planet and the heating will still run away for the next 1500 years.
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Soils are not appropriate for growing low latitude crops in.. This is a prime reason why Canadian agriculture cannot expand northward. Canadian Shield soils are marshy, poorly drained, and rocky. Therefore, woods predominate, NOT crops.
They predominate now. But over time, with the advent of beetles that kill pine trees as the north warms, won't that lead to trees dying, falling, and decomposing, causing the landscape to change to grasslands? Not to mention that other animals and insects migrating further north will have an effect on the current landscape, too.
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Old 04-02-2019, 04:07 AM
 
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They predominate now. But over time, with the advent of beetles that kill pine trees as the north warms, won't that lead to trees dying, falling, and decomposing, causing the landscape to change to grasslands? Not to mention that other animals and insects migrating further north will have an effect on the current landscape, too.
That has already started in the last 30 years. More fires to come out west and more dead tress fred.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Would would I do? Even if 80 yrs old?
Pretty clear...
-amend my soil here in CO and
-grow vegetables!
-Learn everything I can before hand...cuz the soil has to be exactly balanced!
-And keep it from prying eyes*...also
-tell all my friends to do the same.
-Learn canning as my mother did.
-oh....dig a cold storage area/room

It is nothing to laugh at.

* All my neighbors have had their pot plants stolen from their back yards...and friends
not by me...a couple days bef they were going to harvest them themselves...so someone was watching them at night. No one got to mine!
It's was a novelty when it got legalize and we could grow 6 plants...but it's actually hard work watching for spider mites.

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Old 04-02-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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When there were grain shortages in past history,
people's health vastly improved.
Humans don't thrive on all that grain!
Yes. This is a fact...I encourage everyone to read
the Epilogue of 'Protein Power'...2nd to the last chapter...tells what archeologists have found
around the world...relating
to a grain based culture...their teeth (or lack of)...the bones...and omg the mummies!
Oh, those Pharaohs and their grain stores!!!
Mummies are still being autopsied as we speak! Oh, their hardened and sticky, plaque filled aortas!
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Old 04-02-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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How will the ecological bomb in the Sandhills of Nebraska affect life in the surrounding areas of the plains and Midwest once a prolonged drought returns the dunes to a miniature Sahara?
Generations will abstain unless there is further change back to more suitable land?

We're in a space crunch only in certain locations, not the entire US, (due to concentrations of better jobs around cities, school districts, commute times, and the fact that there are only 24 hours in a day.) The biggest impact would be to existing residents.

I think we're a lot better off today when agriculture is a means of direct sustenance for a smaller number of families than during the first Dust Bowl.
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Old 04-02-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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Think of the billions of planets out there to save us and no way to get to them. We already about did ours in already in under 170 years. Sure won't take another 170 years to finish it off.
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