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Yes! Things are way too different in both hemispheres. 3 16.67%
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:20 AM
 
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Argentina is a big country with a great diversity of climates. I suppose in this case you mean the central part, around Buenos Aires.


Good job, though!
Yeah, I was specifically referring to Buenos Aires and Bahia Blanca.

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I'm actually in the South Island, and about the northern half would have a similar description as the North Island -only coastal margins though.
Technically true but it's pretty much just Motueka, maybe Greymouth at a stretch.

Time for Cs and Cw.

Csa:
Eastern Mediterranean: Mild to warm wet winters, very hot dry summers, moderate humidity, found in western Australia (around Geraldton), Cyprus, Turkey, Greece, southern Italy, Tunisia, Lebanon and its southern neighbour who shall not be named.
Western Mediterranean: Warm wet winters, hot dry summers, moderate humidity, found in central Italy, southern Spain (Costa Del Sol), Algeria, southern California (around Long Beach) and western Australia (around Perth).
Northern Mediterranean: Mild to warm wet winters, warm to hot dry summers, moderate humidity, found in southern France, eastern Spain, northwest Italy (around Genoa), south Australia (around Adelaide) and the more inland suburbs of Cape Town.
Portuguese: Mild to warm wet winters, hot dry summers, low humidity, found in central and southern Portugal and southern California (around downtown LA).
Moroccan: Warm wet winter, warm to hot dry summers, high humidity, low water temperature, fog, found in Morocco, Madeira and Gibraltar.
Lower Mediterranean subcontinental: Mild wet winters, very hot dry summers, low humidity, found in interior southern Spain (around Seville) and southern California (around San Bernardino).
Middle Mediterranean subcontinental: Cool to cold but above freezing wet winters, hot to very hot dry summers, low humidity, found in central Spain, interior northern California and Oregon (around Medford).
Upper Mediterranean subcontinental/Hot summer Cascadian: Cold but above freezing wet winters, hot dry summers, found in parts of Turkey and interior Washington and Oregon.

Csb:
Upper Cascadian: Mild to cold but above freezing very wet winters, mild to warm dry summers, found in western Washington.
Lower Cascadian/Galician: Mild to cold but above freezing wet winters, warm dry summers, found in western Oregon and northwest Spain.
Coastal Californian: Mild to warm winters, mild to warm dry summers, high humidity, fog, found in coastal California (Santa Monica and anywhere northwards), central Chile, the western cape of South Africa, southwest Australia (around Albany), south Australia (around Port Lincoln) and northwest Portugal.
Mountain Californian: Mild to cold but above freezing winters, hot summer days, cool summer nights, found in the Californian coast ranges and associated valleys.

Csc:
Subtropical Mediterranean highland: Long mild wet winters, cool summers, found in central Chile.
Temperate Mediterranean highland: Long cold but above freezing wet winters, cool summers, found in the Cascadian coast ranges and southern Chile.

Cwa:
North Indian: Very hot humid summers, mild to warm dry winters, found in north India and Bangladesh
Southern Chinese: Hot humid summers, warm dry winters, found in southern China (around Hong Kong), Taiwan, northern Vietnam, northern Myanmar, Queensland (around Rockhampton), Mexico (in small amounts), southeastern Brazil (around Sao Paulo) Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique and Botswana.
Monsoon mid subtropical/Sichuanese: Warm to hot humid summers, mild dry winters, found in Sichuan.
Monsoon upper subtropical: Warm to hot humid summers, cold but above freezing dry winters, found in Shandong, Henan and South Korea.

Cwb:
Equatorial highland: High rainfall variation, very little temperature variation, mild to warm year round, found in Ethiopia and Tanzania
Tropical highland: High rainfall variation, some temperature variation, mild to warm year round, found in Mozambique, Madagascar, South Africa (around Johannesburg), Mexico (around Mexico City) and central America.
Subtropical highland: Mild to warm wet summer, mild to cold but above freezing dry winter, found in Sichuan.

Cwc:
Subandean: High rainfall variation, mild to cold year round, found in Peru and Bolivia.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:21 PM
 
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Technically true but it's pretty much just Motueka, maybe Greymouth at a stretch.

All coastal areas north of Christchurch on the east coast, and Franz Josef on the west coast, have warmer winters than Motueka, and comparable summers.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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Cwa:
North Indian: Very hot humid summers, mild to warm dry winters, found in north India and Bangladesh
Southern Chinese: Hot humid summers, warm dry winters, found in southern China (around Hong Kong), Taiwan, northern Vietnam, northern Myanmar, Queensland (around Rockhampton), Mexico (in small amounts), southeastern Brazil (around Sao Paulo) Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique and Botswana.
Monsoon mid subtropical/Sichuanese: Warm to hot humid summers, mild dry winters, found in Sichuan.
Monsoon upper subtropical: Warm to hot humid summers, cold but above freezing dry winters, found in Shandong, Henan and South Korea.
I highlighted the different Cwa subtypes in East Asia. I think the North Indian type is better distinguished by having a very hot pre-monsoon period at the end of the dry season.

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Cfa:
Humid deep subtropical: Influenced by southerly or easterly winds from the subtropical high, warm winters, hot and humid summers, no true dry season, found in southeast Queensland, the US gulf coast, southern Brazil, the east coast of South Africa, Taiwan, southeast China (around Xiamen) and the Ryukyu Islands.
Humid mid subtropical: Influenced by southerly or easterly winds and may have a slight influence from the polar front, mild winters with occasional cold snaps, hot and humid summers, no true dry season, evergreen forest, found in New South Wales, Argentina, eastern China (around Shanghai), South Korea, Honshu, the Adriatic coast of Italy, southern France, the Black Sea coast of Russia and the US Deep South.
The East Asia versions of Cfa are unusual in that they have a spring-late spring precipitation peak. Technically still monsoon influenced, but don't fit the Koppen driest month precipitation threshold for being Cwa.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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All coastal areas north of Christchurch on the east coast, and Franz Josef on the west coast, have warmer winters than Motueka, and comparable summers.
Really? That seems a bit counter intuitive. There isn't any cold current or coastal upwelling so what causes that?

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I highlighted the different Cwa subtypes in East Asia. I think the North Indian type is better distinguished by having a very hot pre-monsoon period at the end of the dry season.



The East Asia versions of Cfa are unusual in that they have a spring-late spring precipitation peak. Technically still monsoon influenced, but don't fit the Koppen driest month precipitation threshold for being Cwa.
Correct about the north Indian climate, I forgot to mention that actually.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/09fd7208...nq9o1_1280.jpg

According to this map, rainfall peaks in late spring-early summer.

Now for Df and Dw.

Dfa:
Humid lower continental: Hot humid summers, cold snowy winters, found in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, South Korea, Romania, Serbia, Hungary, southwest Russia (around Rostov on Don), northern Honshu (around Aomori) and southern Hokkaido (around Hakodate).
Humid mid continental: Warm to hot humid summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in southern Michigan, southern Ontario, upstate New York (around Albany), Romania, Moldova, southern Ukraine and western Hokkaido (around Sapporo)
Humid lower hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, cold to very cold winters, found in Nebraska, northern Missouri, southern Iowa and Illinois.
Humid mid hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, very cold winters, found in South Dakota, southern Minnesota, northern Iowa, southern Wisconsin and southwest Russia (around Volgograd).

Dfb:
Humid lower subcontinental: Warm to hot humid summers, cold snowy winters, found in New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, southern interior BC (around Kelowna) southeast Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia, southwest Poland, northwest Romania and southern Hokkaido.
Humid mid subcontinental: Mild to warm summers, cold snowy winters, found in coastal Maine, the Alaskan Panhandle (around Wrangell) coastal New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Kitimat BC, southeast Hokkaido, western Ukraine, most of Poland, southern Sweden (around Jonkoping), southeast Norway (around Oslo), Kaliningrad and coastal Lithuania
Humid upper subcontinental/hemiboreal subcontinental: Cool summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in Newfoundland, central Sweden (around Gavle), southwest Finland, Estonia, Latvia,most of Lithuania, the Alaskan Panhandle (around Haines), northern Hokkaido and the Kuril Islands.
Humid upper continental/hemiboreal continental: Mild to warm summers, very cold winters, found in northern Michigan, Vermont, New Hampshire, most of Maine, upstate NY, most of New Brunswick ,southern Ontario, southern Quebec, northern Ukraine, eastern Poland, Belarus and western Russia.
Humid upper hypercontinental/hemiboreal hypercontinental: Warm summers, very cold winters, found in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, North Dakota, northern Minnesota, northern Wisconsin, the Ural region of Russia (around Ufa and Perm) southwest Siberia (around Novosibirsk, Omsk and Chelyabinsk) and northern Kazakhstan.

Dfc:
Boreal suboceanic: Cool summers, cold winters, found in Iceland, northern Norway (around Tromso), southern Alaska and the southern Kamchatka Peninsula (around Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky)
Lower boreal subcontinental: Mild to cool summers, cold to very cold winters, found in coastal northern Sweden (around Umea), southern Finland (between Tampere and Oulu), parts of Newfoundland and New Brunswick and southern Alaska.
Upper boreal subcontinental: Cool summers, very cold winters, found in parts of Quebec and Labrador, northern Sweden, northern Finland, southwest Alaska, the Kola Peninsula and the northeast coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula.
Lower boreal continental: Mild to cool summers, very cold to super cold winters, found in parts of Quebec, northern Ontario, central Manitoba, south central Alaska, northwest Russia (around Syktyvkar), northern Sikhote (around Komsomolsk on Amur) and the west coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula.
Upper boreal continental: Cool summers, very cold to super cold winters, found in north central Quebec, northern Manitoba, northwest Alaska (around Nome), coastal northeast Russia (around Anadyr) and northwest Russia (around Arkhangelsk).
Lower boreal hypercontinental), Mild to warm summers, super cold winters, found in central Saskatchewan, Alberta, northern British Columbia, parts of Yukon Territory, central Alaska, western Siberia (around Surgut) and southest Siberia (around Aldan).
Upper boreal hypercontinental), Cool summers, super cold winters, found in northwest Siberia (around Norilsk), north central Alaska, central Yukon Territory, southern Northwest Territories, southern Nunavut, northern Saskatchewan and northern Manitoba.

Dfd:
Lower extreme boreal: Mild to warm summers, extremely cold winters, found in Yakutsk.
Upper extreme boreal: Cool summers, extremely cold winters, found in Udachny.

Dwa:
Monsoon lower continental: Hot humid summers, cold dry winters, found in Shandong, Shanxi, North Korea and South Korea.
Monsoon lower hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, cold to very cold dry winters, found in southern Manchuria (around Shenyang) and North Korea.
Monsoon mid hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, very cold dry winters, found in northern Manchuria (around Harbin).

Dwb:
Monsoon mid subcontinental: Mild to warm wet summers, cold dry winters, found in North Korea.
Monsoon upper subcontinental/monsoon hemiboreal subcontinental: Cool wet summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in southeast Russia (around Vladivostok)
Monsoon upper continental/monsoon hemiboreal continental: Mild to warm wet summers, very cold dry winters, found in eastern Manchuria and Sikhote.
Monsoon upper hypercontinental/monsoon hemiboreal hypercontinental: Warm wet summers, very cold dry winters, found in parts of Siberia (around Krasnoyarsk and Irkutsk) and a few areas of Alberta.

Dwc:
Lower monsoon boreal: Mild to warm wet summers, super cold dry winters, found in southern Siberia.
Upper monsoon boreal: Cool wet summers, super cold dry winters, found near the Sea of Okhotsk.

Dwd:
Monsoon extreme boreal: Warm to cool wet summers, extremely cold dry winters, found in Batagay.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:55 PM
 
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Really? That seems a bit counter intuitive. There isn't any cold current or coastal upwelling so what causes that?



Correct about the north Indian climate, I forgot to mention that actually.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/09fd7208...nq9o1_1280.jpg

According to this map, rainfall peaks in late spring-early summer.

Now for Df and Dw.

Dfa:
Humid lower continental: Hot humid summers, cold snowy winters, found in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, South Korea, Romania, Serbia, Hungary, southwest Russia (around Rostov on Don), northern Honshu (around Aomori) and southern Hokkaido (around Hakodate).
Humid mid continental: Warm to hot humid summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in southern Michigan, southern Ontario, upstate New York (around Albany), Romania, Moldova, southern Ukraine and western Hokkaido (around Sapporo)
Humid lower hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, cold to very cold winters, found in Nebraska, northern Missouri, southern Iowa and Illinois.
Humid mid hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, very cold winters, found in South Dakota, southern Minnesota, northern Iowa, southern Wisconsin and southwest Russia (around Volgograd).

Dfb:
Humid lower subcontinental: Warm to hot humid summers, cold snowy winters, found in New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, southern interior BC (around Kelowna) southeast Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia, southwest Poland, northwest Romania and southern Hokkaido.
Humid mid subcontinental: Mild to warm summers, cold snowy winters, found in coastal Maine, the Alaskan Panhandle (around Wrangell) coastal New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Kitimat BC, southeast Hokkaido, western Ukraine, most of Poland, southern Sweden (around Jonkoping), southeast Norway (around Oslo), Kaliningrad and coastal Lithuania
Humid upper subcontinental/hemiboreal subcontinental: Cool summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in Newfoundland, central Sweden (around Gavle), southwest Finland, Estonia, Latvia,most of Lithuania, the Alaskan Panhandle (around Haines), northern Hokkaido and the Kuril Islands.
Humid upper continental/hemiboreal continental: Mild to warm summers, very cold winters, found in northern Michigan, Vermont, New Hampshire, most of Maine, upstate NY, most of New Brunswick ,southern Ontario, southern Quebec, northern Ukraine, eastern Poland, Belarus and western Russia.
Humid upper hypercontinental/hemiboreal hypercontinental: Warm summers, very cold winters, found in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, North Dakota, northern Minnesota, northern Wisconsin, the Ural region of Russia (around Ufa and Perm) southwest Siberia (around Novosibirsk, Omsk and Chelyabinsk) and northern Kazakhstan.

Dfc:
Boreal suboceanic: Cool summers, cold winters, found in Iceland, northern Norway (around Tromso), southern Alaska and the southern Kamchatka Peninsula (around Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky)
Lower boreal subcontinental: Mild to cool summers, cold to very cold winters, found in coastal northern Sweden (around Umea), southern Finland (between Tampere and Oulu), parts of Newfoundland and New Brunswick and southern Alaska.
Upper boreal subcontinental: Cool summers, very cold winters, found in parts of Quebec and Labrador, northern Sweden, northern Finland, southwest Alaska, the Kola Peninsula and the northeast coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula.
Lower boreal continental: Mild to cool summers, very cold to super cold winters, found in parts of Quebec, northern Ontario, central Manitoba, south central Alaska, northwest Russia (around Syktyvkar), northern Sikhote (around Komsomolsk on Amur) and the west coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula.
Upper boreal continental: Cool summers, very cold to super cold winters, found in north central Quebec, northern Manitoba, northwest Alaska (around Nome), coastal northeast Russia (around Anadyr) and northwest Russia (around Arkhangelsk).
Lower boreal hypercontinental), Mild to warm summers, super cold winters, found in central Saskatchewan, Alberta, northern British Columbia, parts of Yukon Territory, central Alaska, western Siberia (around Surgut) and southest Siberia (around Aldan).
Upper boreal hypercontinental), Cool summers, super cold winters, found in northwest Siberia (around Norilsk), north central Alaska, central Yukon Territory, southern Northwest Territories, southern Nunavut, northern Saskatchewan and northern Manitoba.

Dfd:
Lower extreme boreal: Mild to warm summers, extremely cold winters, found in Yakutsk.
Upper extreme boreal: Cool summers, extremely cold winters, found in Udachny.

Dwa:
Monsoon lower continental: Hot humid summers, cold dry winters, found in Shandong, Shanxi, North Korea and South Korea.
Monsoon lower hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, cold to very cold dry winters, found in southern Manchuria (around Shenyang) and North Korea.
Monsoon mid hypercontinental: Hot humid summers, very cold dry winters, found in northern Manchuria (around Harbin).

Dwb:
Monsoon mid subcontinental: Mild to warm wet summers, cold dry winters, found in North Korea.
Monsoon upper subcontinental/monsoon hemiboreal subcontinental: Cool wet summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in southeast Russia (around Vladivostok)
Monsoon upper continental/monsoon hemiboreal continental: Mild to warm wet summers, very cold dry winters, found in eastern Manchuria and Sikhote.
Monsoon upper hypercontinental/monsoon hemiboreal hypercontinental: Warm wet summers, very cold dry winters, found in parts of Siberia (around Krasnoyarsk and Irkutsk) and a few areas of Alberta.

Dwc:
Lower monsoon boreal: Mild to warm wet summers, super cold dry winters, found in southern Siberia.
Upper monsoon boreal: Cool wet summers, super cold dry winters, found near the Sea of Okhotsk.

Dwd:
Monsoon extreme boreal: Warm to cool wet summers, extremely cold dry winters, found in Batagay.
Great job again! I definitely agree that some of these areas, especially Yakutsk and some warmer hot-summer continental climates, are extreme enough to deserve their own "hypercontinental" class. However, I'm not sure how exactly I would implement that for hemiboreal climates, which tend not to get quite as cold as subarctic nor as hot as warm continental climates.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:18 AM
 
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Here's Ds and E.

Dsa:
Lower Mediterranean continental: Hot to very hot dry summers, cold snowy winters, found in Anatolia, Iran and Afghanistan
Upper Mediterranean continental: Warm to hot dry summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Dsb:
Mid Mediterranean continental highland: Warm dry summers, cold snowy winters, found in the Sierra Nevada, the mountains of Arizona (around Flagstaff), the Atlas Mountains, Anatolia and Afghanistan.
Upper Mediterranean continental highland: Mild to warm dry summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in the Sierra Nevada, the Cascade Range, Anatolia, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Dsc:
Lower Mediterranean subalpine: Mild to cool dry summers, cold to very cold snowy winters, found in the Sierra Nevada, Iran and Afghanistan.
Upper Mediterranean subalpine: Cool dry summers, very cold snowy winters, found in the Rockies, the Cascades, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.
Dry spring lower boreal: Mild to cool summers, very cold winters, dry springs, found in the Coast Mountains of BC, northern BC, Yukon Territory, southern Alaska and the Kamchatka Peninsula.
Dry spring upper boreal: Cool summers, super cold winters, dry springs, found in northern Siberia, northern Alaska and northern Canada.

Dsd:
Dry spring extreme boreal: Warm to cool summers, extremely cold winters, dry springs, found in Zhigansk.

ET:
Austral hyperoceanic: Cold but above freezing year round, high snowfall but little accumulation, found in southern Patagonia (around Ushuaia), the Falkland Islands, the Kerguelen Islands and Campbell Island.
Subantarctic/Arctlantic:Snowless to mostly snowless summers, cold winters, found in South Georgia, the South Sandwich Islands, Bouvet Island, the very northern edge of the Antarctic Peninsula, coastal southern Greenland, Iceland, Jan Mayen and northern Norway (around Hammerfest).
Lower Arctic tundra: Snowless summers, very cold to super cold winters, found in northern Alaska, northern Canada, northern mainland Quebec, northern mainland Russia.
Middle Arctic tundra: Mostly snowless summers, close to summer sea ice line, very cold to super cold winters, found in Victoria Island, Baffin Island, coastal central Greenland, Svalbard and the southern half of Novaya Zemlya.
Upper Arctic tundra: Transient summer snow cover, summer sea ice, super cold winters, found in Ellesmere Island, coastal northern Greenland, Franz Josef Land, the northern half of Novaya Zemlya and Severnaya Zemlya.

EF:
Tropical mountain glacier: Below freezing year round, low seasonal variation, found in Kilimanjaro.
Polar ice cap: Below freezing year round, high seasonal variation, found in Greenland and Antarctica.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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Really? That seems a bit counter intuitive. There isn't any cold current or coastal upwelling so what causes that?
Less cloud cover means more frosts and colder minimums
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Yeah, I was specifically referring to Buenos Aires and Bahia Blanca.



Technically true but it's pretty much just Motueka, maybe Greymouth at a stretch.

Time for Cs and Cw.

Csa:
Eastern Mediterranean: Mild to warm wet winters, very hot dry summers, moderate humidity, found in western Australia (around Geraldton), Cyprus, Turkey, Greece, southern Italy, Tunisia, Lebanon and its southern neighbour who shall not be named.
Western Mediterranean: Warm wet winters, hot dry summers, moderate humidity, found in central Italy, southern Spain (Costa Del Sol), Algeria, southern California (around Long Beach) and western Australia (around Perth).
Northern Mediterranean: Mild to warm wet winters, warm to hot dry summers, moderate humidity, found in southern France, eastern Spain, northwest Italy (around Genoa), south Australia (around Adelaide) and the more inland suburbs of Cape Town.
Portuguese: Mild to warm wet winters, hot dry summers, low humidity, found in central and southern Portugal and southern California (around downtown LA).
Moroccan: Warm wet winter, warm to hot dry summers, high humidity, low water temperature, fog, found in Morocco, Madeira and Gibraltar.
Lower Mediterranean subcontinental: Mild wet winters, very hot dry summers, low humidity, found in interior southern Spain (around Seville) and southern California (around San Bernardino).
Middle Mediterranean subcontinental: Cool to cold but above freezing wet winters, hot to very hot dry summers, low humidity, found in central Spain, interior northern California and Oregon (around Medford).
Upper Mediterranean subcontinental/Hot summer Cascadian: Cold but above freezing wet winters, hot dry summers, found in parts of Turkey and interior Washington and Oregon.

Csb:
Upper Cascadian: Mild to cold but above freezing very wet winters, mild to warm dry summers, found in western Washington.
Lower Cascadian/Galician: Mild to cold but above freezing wet winters, warm dry summers, found in western Oregon and northwest Spain.
Coastal Californian: Mild to warm winters, mild to warm dry summers, high humidity, fog, found in coastal California (Santa Monica and anywhere northwards), central Chile, the western cape of South Africa, southwest Australia (around Albany), south Australia (around Port Lincoln) and northwest Portugal.
Mountain Californian: Mild to cold but above freezing winters, hot summer days, cool summer nights, found in the Californian coast ranges and associated valleys.

Csc:
Subtropical Mediterranean highland: Long mild wet winters, cool summers, found in central Chile.
Temperate Mediterranean highland: Long cold but above freezing wet winters, cool summers, found in the Cascadian coast ranges and southern Chile.

Cwa:
North Indian: Very hot humid summers, mild to warm dry winters, found in north India and Bangladesh
Southern Chinese: Hot humid summers, warm dry winters, found in southern China (around Hong Kong), Taiwan, northern Vietnam, northern Myanmar, Queensland (around Rockhampton), Mexico (in small amounts), southeastern Brazil (around Sao Paulo) Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique and Botswana.
Monsoon mid subtropical/Sichuanese: Warm to hot humid summers, mild dry winters, found in Sichuan.
Monsoon upper subtropical: Warm to hot humid summers, cold but above freezing dry winters, found in Shandong, Henan and South Korea.

Cwb:
Equatorial highland: High rainfall variation, very little temperature variation, mild to warm year round, found in Ethiopia and Tanzania
Tropical highland: High rainfall variation, some temperature variation, mild to warm year round, found in Mozambique, Madagascar, South Africa (around Johannesburg), Mexico (around Mexico City) and central America.
Subtropical highland: Mild to warm wet summer, mild to cold but above freezing dry winter, found in Sichuan.

Cwc:
Subandean: High rainfall variation, mild to cold year round, found in Peru and Bolivia.
Do you consider Victoria, BC part of your Csb Upper Cascadian zone?
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:37 AM
 
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Less cloud cover means more frosts and colder minimums
Okay, but why doesn't Motueka have equally warmer summers as a result?

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Do you consider Victoria, BC part of your Csb Upper Cascadian zone?
Yes, bordering on Temperate oceanic rainforest.

It's finally here, B. I won't be using h and k because there isn't much difference between LAX and San Diego

BS:
Equatorial coastal semiarid: Very little seasonal variation, hot but not very hot year round, low shrubland, found in Somalia, Venezuela and Colombia.
Equatorial continental semiarid: Low seasonal variation, hot to very hot year round, low shrubland, found in Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya and Tanzania.
Tropical coastal semiarid: Low seasonal variation, warm to hot year round, grassland, found in Senegal, Cape Verde, Angola western India (around Ahmedabad), Sinaloa, Tamaulipas, various rain shadows on tropical islands.
Tropical continental semiarid: Warm winters, very hot summers, grassland, found in Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger, Nigeria, Chad, Sudan, northern Australia and southern India.
Tropical semiarid highland: Moderated by elevation, mild to warm winters, hot summers, found in Angola, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe and northeast Brazil
Subtropical west coast semiarid: Warm winters, warm to hot summers, low shrubland, fog, found in southern California (around San Diego), Morocco (around Agadir), the western Canary Islands, the Western Cape of South Africa and central Chile (between Valparaiso and La Serena).
Subtropical inland sea semiarid: Mild to warm winters, hot to very hot summers, low shrubland, found in Tamaulipas, Texas, northern Libya, coastal eastern Spain, parts of Italy, parts of Greece, Cyprus and Southwest Australia (around Esperance)
Subtropical subcontinental semiarid: Mild winters, very hot summers, low shrubland, found in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, central California, interior southeast Spain, Iran, northern India, Argetina, southwest Queensland western NSW, and northern Victoria.
Subtropical continental semiarid: Cold but above freezing winters, very hot summers, low shrubland, found in New Mexico, Arizona, northern Syria, northern Iraq and central Iran.
Temperate oceanic semiarid: Mild winters, mild to warm summers, low shrubland and grassland, found in Argentina.
Temperate subcontinental semiarid: Cold but above freezing winters, hot summers, low shrubland and grassland, found in Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, northern Spain, parts of Turkey, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan.
Temperate continental semiarid: Cold winters, hot summers, low shrubland and grassland, found in eastern Oregon, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Colorado, Nebraska, parts of Turkey and northern Iran
Temperate hypercontinental semiarid: Cold to very cold winters, very hot summers, low shrubland and grassland, found in Arizona, Utah, Wyoming and parts of northern China.
Hemiboreal oceanic semiarid: Cold but above freezing winters, mild to warm summers, grassland, found in New Zealand (around Alexandra).
Hemiboreal subcontinental semiarid: Cold winters, warm to hot summers, grassland, found in eastern Washington, eastern Oregon, Idaho, British Columbia (around Kamloops) Romania and Ukraine.
Hemiboreal continental semiarid: Cold to very cold winters, warm to hot summers, grassland, found in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Alberta, North Dakota, South Dakota, southwest Russia and Kazakhstan.
Subpolar oceanic semiarid: Cold but above freezing winters, cool summers, grassland transitioning towards tundra, found in southern Argentina.
Subpolar suboceanic semiarid: Cold winters, cool summers, low shrubland transitioning into boreal forest, found in Norway.
Subpolar subcontinental semiarid: Cold to very cold winters, mild to cool summers, low shrubland transitioning into boreal forest, not found anywhere.
Subpolar continental semiarid: Very cold winters, mild summers, low shrubland transitioning into boreal forest, found in Alaska, British Columbia.
Subpolar hypercontinental semiarid: Super cold winters, mild to warm summers, grassland, found in Mongolia.

BW:
Equatorial coastal desert: Very little seasonal variation, hot but not very hot year round, found in Somalia, Yemen, Venezuela and Colombia.
Equatorial continental desert: Low seasonal variation, hot to very hot year round, found in Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia and Kenya.
Tropical inland sea desert: Low seasonal variation, hot to very hot year round, found in Yemen, Eritrea, Sudan, Egypt, Oman, the UAE, Kuwait, Iran and Qatar
Tropical coastal desert: Low seasonal variation, warm to hot year round, found in Senegal, Maurtania, Baja California Sur, Oman, Pakistan and northwest Australia
Tropical continental desert: Warm winters, very hot summers, found in Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and northern Australia.
Tropical/subtropical arid highland: Moderated by elevation, mild to warm winters, hot summers, found in Namibia, Botswana and South Africa.
Subtropical west coast desert: Mild to warm winters, mild to warm summers, fog, found in Morocco, Western Sahara, Baja California, northern Chile and Namibia.
Subtropical inland sea desert: Mild to warm winters, very hot summers, found in Sonora, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt
Subtropical subcontinental desert: Mild winters, very hot summers, found in California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Sonora, Chihuahua, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, northwest India and central Australia
Subtropical continental desert: Cold but above freezing winters, very hot summers, found in Algeria, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Syria, Iraq and Iran
Temperate oceanic desert: Mild winters, mild to warm summers, found in Argentina.
Temperate subcontinental desert: Cold but above freezing winters, hot summers, found in Iran, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Arizona, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico
Temperate continental desert: Cold winters, hot summers, found in eastern Oregon, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan
Temperate hypercontinental desert: Cold to very cold winters, very hot summers, found in Arizona, Utah, Wyoming and northwest China (Taklamakan)
Hemiboreal oceanic desert: Cold but above freezing winters, mild to warm summers, found in southern Argentina
Hemiboreal continental desert: Cold to very cold winters, warm to hot summers, found in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, southwest Russia and Kazakhstan.
Subpolar oceanic desert: Cold but above freezing winters, cool summers, found in southern Argentina.
Subpolar suboceanic desert: Cold winters, cool summers, found in southern Argentina
Subpolar subcontinental desert: Cold to very cold winters, mild to cool summers, not found anywhere.
Subpolar continental desert: Very cold winters, mild summers, not found anywhere
Subpolar hypercontinental desert: Super cold winters, mild to warm summers, found in Mongolia.
Polar desert: Super cold winters, summers above freezing, found in the Arctic above 75N.
Antarctic dry valley, Extremely cold winters, summers below freezing, found in the McMurdo Dry Valleys.
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Okay, but why doesn't Motueka have equally warmer summers as a result?



Yes, bordering on Temperate oceanic rainforest.

Motueka has warmer summer maximums, but cooler minimums, making it warmer overall in summer, but not to the point of being a different climate type.

So much of the South Island is temperate rain forest, yet is excluded from that category -seems odd to consider Victoria BC as closer to rain forest, than towns in my area which have seven times the rainfall of Victoria.
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