Do you consider Victoria, BC to have a warm temperate climate? (temperature, days)

[DKM]

Climate classifications have more to do with minimum temps in the winter than summer or average temps. That's why its on the warm temperate side, although just barely. And the Mediterranean aspect is simply the rainfall pattern.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by Sun Belt-lover L.A.M.

I have to disagree with the popular opinion, unfortunately.

For me, warm temperate is anything warmer than hemiboreal but colder than subtropical, so yes. Places with either a Dfa or Cfb climate (or their dry winter/summer equivalents) generally support more plant species than Dfb but fewer than Cfa,although this does of course vary on a case-by-case basis. Thus, I would consider Victoria to be "mild warm temperate" as opposed to Chicago's "harsh warm temperate."

Warm temperate climates should grow more plants than mild/cool temperates climates -if there are exceptions, then it is incorrect to use vegetation when it suits your view, and ignore vegetation when it doesn't suit your view

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by forgotten username

Maybe "warm temperate" is a way to differentiate that kind of climate Vs. climates with similar summers but actual cold winters ? (like, say, Scandinavians or baltic climates for instance).

Then you're really just saying that my climate and Stockholm's climates, are really just variants of each other - not seeing the logic here.

[deneb78]

If Victoria is not considered a warm temperate climate, would it be considered a cold temperate climate then?
Does it have a lot in common with climates like Oslo or Sapporo?

[forgotten username]

Originally Posted by Joe90

Then you're really just saying that my climate and Stockholm's climates, are really just variants of each other - not seeing the logic here.

Oh no I don't want to get into a debate with you about this


I don't even understand this whole "warm temperate" thing really, I just think this place is oceanic with a mediterranean influence, like most of this area. And as such, I don't see why it would be classified as warm something, except in regards to places which are continental but without the hot summers (hence my examples), so places with a lower annual average.


I mean, my place is a whole 3c warmer than Victoria on a yearly basis, so are we "Hot temperate" then ?

[svelten]

No.

Warmest and most pleasant climate in Canada. But not "Warm, temperate"... nowhere really qualifies for that in the country. I'd consider a climate like Porto, Portugal warm, temperate... winter average highs still need to reach the teens.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by forgotten username

Oh no I don't want to get into a debate with you about this


I don't even understand this whole "warm temperate" thing really, I just think this place is oceanic with a mediterranean influence, like most of this area. And as such, I don't see why it would be classified as warm something, except in regards to places which are continental but without the hot summers (hence my examples), so places with a lower annual average.


I mean, my place is a whole 3c warmer than Victoria on a yearly basis, so are we "Hot temperate" then ?

Temperate climates are pretty much all climates except tropical and polar climates, so it shouldn't be hard to place all individual temperate locations into cold, cool/mild, or warm temperate categories.

Bologna would be cool/mild temperate, same as Victoria and my climate.

[unobtainium]

Originally Posted by Joe90

Temperate climates are pretty much all climates except tropical and polar climates, so it shouldn't be hard to place all individual temperate locations into cold, cool/mild, or warm temperate categories.

Bologna would be cool/mild temperate, same as Victoria and my climate.

I think that’s the problem with the temperate category, it sort of covers absolutely everything except the extremes (polar or tropical).

I like “oceanic with Mediterranean influences” to describe the PNW. It’s the most accurately descriptive imo.

[forgotten username]

Originally Posted by Joe90

Temperate climates are pretty much all climates except tropical and polar climates, so it shouldn't be hard to place all individual temperate locations into cold, cool/mild, or warm temperate categories.

Bologna would be cool/mild temperate, same as Victoria and my climate.

then we can put Stockholm in the group as well !

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by unobtainium

I think that’s the problem with the temperate category, it sort of covers absolutely everything except the extremes (polar or tropical).

I like “oceanic with Mediterranean influences” to describe the PNW. It’s the most accurately descriptive imo.

Warm temperate isn't a specific climate as such, rather just a general grouping of temperate climates based on warmth, and the most obvious manifestation of warmth -the ability to sustain higher levels of ecological activity.

Rainfall obviously impacts on levels of ecological activity, but other than that, the warmer a temperate climate is, the greater the level of plant/animal activity will be.

Originally Posted by forgotten username

then we can put Stockholm in the group as well !

There's about 6C between Stockholm's average temperature (7.6C) and that of Bologna(13.6C) - temperate climates have a range of annual temperatures from approximately -9C/30C, so on a global scale, Stockholm and Bologna aren't that different.