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Old 01-28-2020, 08:44 AM
 
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We all know that you can grow tropical plants in the temperate zone. We place them in the greenhouse for the winter. Could you do the same with a temperate plant like a maple or aspen and put it in a chilled greenhouse to imitate winter in tropical climates?
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:38 AM
 
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Not all tempered fruits, but some yes, however the intensity of the sun's/temperature rays alter the physiological formation mechanisms of the plant such as photosynthesis, dormancy, flowering and sprouting. In Brazil, grapes are grown in Bahia. There are several crops in the highlands as well. Often among these plants that adapt, there is no need for a greenhouse for cooling, etc. There are specific techniques such as defoliation and the application of hormones to break dormancy.
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:45 AM
 
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We all know that you can grow tropical plants in the temperate zone. We place them in the greenhouse for the winter. Could you do the same with a temperate plant like a maple or aspen and put it in a chilled greenhouse to imitate winter in tropical climates?
I've seen refrigerated greenhouses for plants that need cooler conditions in Thailand and I think there are even refrigerated greenhouses for alpine plants at Kew gardens in London. The Thailand greenhouse housed plants like Hydrangeas, Fuchsias, Petunias etc that prefer cooler conditions than they would get outdoors in Thailand but not the real winter chill of deciduous trees. Ultimately though there is much less variety of plant life in the temperate zones than the tropics, so probably a lot less interest in growing temperate plants in the tropics than vice versa. An aspen in Singapore is probably a lot less different from outdoor trees and would be considered less interesting than a coconut palm in London.
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:24 AM
 
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Apparently, red maple trees grow naturally all across the Eastern US, all the way down to tropical South Florida.
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Old 01-28-2020, 02:40 PM
 
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Apparently, red maple trees grow naturally all across the Eastern US, all the way down to tropical South Florida.
Not in the Everglades and the Keys.
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:59 PM
 
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Tulips you can but the bulbs must be refrigerated for 3 months.
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:52 PM
 
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Ultimately though there is much less variety of plant life in the temperate zones than the tropics, so probably a lot less interest in growing temperate plants in the tropics than vice versa. An aspen in Singapore is probably a lot less different from outdoor trees and would be considered less interesting than a coconut palm in London.
Oh this is not true at all. Many people in the tropics yearn for roses, hydrangeas, peonies, pines, spruces, maples, stone fruits, apples, etc. The grass is always greener on the other side.

There is actually a sweet spot close to the equator at moderate elevation (~1800-2000 m) where both tropical and temperate plants will grow, maybe not optimally, but decent enough side by side. So you could have roses and hydrangeas underneath a grove of coconuts.
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Old 01-30-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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If you have a strong enough As climate with only marginally tropical winters and/or a marginal tropical climate with very mild summers, you could probably grow Chilean Wine Palms. You could probably grow Chinese Windmill Palms too as long as it were a rare mild-summer variant with ample rainfall year-round.

Southern Live Oak is native to some parts of Cuba, hinting that they can grow in at least some tropical climates.

Canary Island Date Palms are in an almost tropical climate themselves, so I find it difficult to believe they couldn't survive in a semiarid tropical climate.

There are also a few pines that will grow in the tropics. One species is native to a few scattered northwestern areas of the Sahara, and several more are native to tropical south Florida.

Southern Magnolia would probably grow from cuttings. However, they won't reproduce on their own, as the seeds need an average winter low between 32F and 40F to properly stratify.

However, an actual temperate plant in the tropics would be very difficult. Most of the entries I mentioned are subtropical rather than truly temperate, and the two palm species at the top that's the exception would be very difficult to find a suitable tropical climate for.
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Old 01-30-2020, 07:25 PM
 
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I would ask this question in the Gardening section. You'd get more educated answers.
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Old 01-31-2020, 04:09 AM
 
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Oh this is not true at all. Many people in the tropics yearn for roses, hydrangeas, peonies, pines, spruces, maples, stone fruits, apples, etc. The grass is always greener on the other side.

There is actually a sweet spot close to the equator at moderate elevation (~1800-2000 m) where both tropical and temperate plants will grow, maybe not optimally, but decent enough side by side. So you could have roses and hydrangeas underneath a grove of coconuts.
That there is a bigger variety of plant life in the tropics is beyond dispute - both in species and growth forms. For example there are plenty of angiosperm trees in both the tropics and cooler climates but few to no non-angiosperm, non-gymnosperm tree-like growth forms native to the non-tropics, e.g. palms, tree-like Lily family plants, giant herbs e.g. Musa, Ravanala etc. There are few to no epiphytes, particularly orchids and bromeliads.

'Yearning' suggests home sickness and that's natural, but I'm talking about general interest and scientific interest, e.g. in botanical gardens. Also I'd expect the situation in southern Florida is a bit different because it's a relatively small area of tropical climate in a country that is mostly cool to cold winter.
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