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Old 08-14-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: MD
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Sep usually sucks here, but Oct usually brings the relief. Hopefully we get some frosts in October this year.
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Old 08-14-2020, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Lake Huron Shores
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Our record latest freeze in Atlanta is Dec 18. Only about 1 in 6 or 7 years do we not hit freezing by December 1st. It'd demolish the record if we didn't hit freezing by Jan 1. Would require a consistent pattern bringing warm(ish) air from the south.
I mean, Atlanta is at an elevation. So it’s possible that a freeze happens sometime in December. Lower elevation cities like Memphis, Charlotte, and Dallas may not see a freeze for a while longer.
There will be a delay of 2 weeks for the first freeze from average. We usually see our first freeze in Mid October, NYC does so sometime around Halloween, and Atlanta sees it’s first freeze around thanksgiving.
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Old 08-14-2020, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I mean, Atlanta is at an elevation. So it’s possible that a freeze happens sometime in December. Lower elevation cities like Memphis, Charlotte, and Dallas may not see a freeze for a while longer.
There will be a delay of 2 weeks for the first freeze from average. We usually see our first freeze in Mid October, NYC does so sometime around Halloween, and Atlanta sees it’s first freeze around thanksgiving.
Even Dallas has always hit freezing before the New Year. Shoot, their avg low bottoms out at 35.
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Old 08-14-2020, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
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I mean, Atlanta is at an elevation. So it’s possible that a freeze happens sometime in December. Lower elevation cities like Memphis, Charlotte, and Dallas may not see a freeze for a while longer.
There will be a delay of 2 weeks for the first freeze from average. We usually see our first freeze in Mid October, NYC does so sometime around Halloween, and Atlanta sees it’s first freeze around thanksgiving.
I've never seen a year without a freeze by Dec 31. Looking at NOWData looks like that did occur in Alexandria in 1931.

Average first freeze in central Louisiana is Nov 11-20.
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Old 08-17-2020, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Lake Huron Shores
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Looks like coastal New England has got a taste of fall.
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Old 08-17-2020, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Inland FL
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People who live out of FL don't realize how lucky they are to get a fall season.
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Old 08-17-2020, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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People who live out of FL don't realize how lucky they are to get a fall season.

100 years ago Florida was a backwater with less than a million people. It was behind West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska in population. It had less than half the people of Oklahoma!



Since then it's gone from the 32nd most populous state in the Union to the 3rd most populous one. My strong suspicion is that the reason it has done so is that very fact that it does not have a real fall season.



For comparison, Maine - the state with a very pronounced four season climate with its beautiful fall foliage - was 35th in population in 1920, and 43rd today. They added about 600,000 people in the same time span that Florida added almost 21 million.

It sure looks like people are voting with their feet against fall.
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Old 08-17-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: USA
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People who live out of FL don't realize how lucky they are to get a fall season.
If only people could chose the state they wanted to live in. If only...
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Old 08-17-2020, 05:34 PM
 
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100 years ago Florida was a backwater with less than a million people. It was behind West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska in population. It had less than half the people of Oklahoma!



Since then it's gone from the 32nd most populous state in the Union to the 3rd most populous one. My strong suspicion is that the reason it has done so is that very fact that it does not have a real fall season.



For comparison, Maine - the state with a very pronounced four season climate with its beautiful fall foliage - was 35th in population in 1920, and 43rd today. They added about 600,000 people in the same time span that Florida added almost 21 million.

It sure looks like people are voting with their feet against fall.
Used to have falls when i first started keeping records in Tampa in 1978. Used to see 30's and 40's in Oct. Never had the pretty colors of fall in the Tampa area until Jan as some tree's turn red and orange by then.

The last 9 years the falls have been blazing hot with the lowest temp last Oct was a 66f near the end of the month. Never saw lows so warm in Oct before. Now Nov is seeing 90's well into the month.
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Old 08-18-2020, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Lake Huron Shores
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Fall like dew points here:
https://www.wunderground.com/wundermap
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