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With all these major arctic outbreak, how can we say Earth is warming? Some areas in Texas have had the coldest temps since 1949. This time with lots of snow and ice. They used to say the Earth was cooling back in the 70's, then the summer of 1980 came. There were some very cold years after that but things warmed up. Are we in a cooling phase now?
Both. Warming is causing all kids of climate weirdness.
Don’t confuse weather with climate.
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This shows a lack of historical memory. Climate always changes as do fleeting weather events. Here is a partial list of such events:
The Valley Forge winter of 1777-8;
The winter of 1778-9 when the Hudson froze so much cannon could move across it;
The St. Croix Hurricane of 1772 (link) (dispute as to whether it was August 31 or September 14), but one way or another it paved way for Alexander Hamilton to wind up in New York;
The NYC Hurricane of 1821 that joined the Hudson and East River pretty far up into Lower Manhattan;
The NYC Blizzard of 1888;
The Cold Wave at the end of 1917 and beginning of 1918, with temperatures in NYC as low as -12°F;
February 9, 1934, NYC's record cold of -15°F;
July 9, 1936, NYC's record high of 106°F and NYS's record high, at Troy, NY of 108°F;
Dozens of other record highs the week before and including July 9, 1936 in the U.S. east of the Rockies; and
The Dust Bowl of the 1930's;
The Hurricane of 1938;
The "Mayor Lindsay" snowstorm of 1969;
Hurricane Camille;
The rains that soaked music revelers at Woodstock in August 1969;
Arctic outbreaks in January 1977 and December 1989 rivaling this past week, but not so focused on Texas;
The outbreak of January 1985 that cancelled the outdoor Presidential inauguration.
Event Nos. 1-5 can in no way be attributed to man-made climate change. Even #6, the Blizzard of 1888 would be a stretch. That event was likely triggered by an oncoming Super El Niño, similar to the February 23-24, 1972 event (record snows in Ithaca and other upstate locations, 5" mixed snow in NYC), the April 7, 1982 snowstorm (about 10" in NYC) and the April Fools Day storm of 1997. I suppose one can argue that the 1917-18 and February 1934 cold waves, as well as the almost-nationwide heat wave of 1936, the Dust Bowl and then later event had something to do with man-made climate change, but I tend to doubt it.
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It's warming in most places with some crazy cool events here and there.
As far as February 2021, this La Niña. La Niñas feature an alternation of a strong west-to-east jet street that floods the CONUS with mild air, and buckling of the jet stream which creates deep plunges of Arctic or even Siberian air into the CONUS. This happens cyclically. This is nothing that we as humans can change.
I am baffled to see so many climate skeptics on this board, but it's an american board after all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Can you blame us? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds to hear that it's "warmer", when you have to put on 3 layers of clothes, including an uncomfortably thick coat, and dig your car out of 2 feet (60 cm) of snow. Not only that, you get shamed Inquisition-style for pointing out that it's actually colder and all the damage the cold weather is causing. I don't know what changed in Italy, but America is most certainly NOT warmer.
I am baffled to see so many climate skeptics on this board, but it's an american board after all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sorry bro. We’re not all bad, most of us do believe in the facts that we are warming. It’s mostly just that these skeptics are old heads. Most of younger generation believes in global warming. I want warming, soon NYC will be like your city climate wise, good for palms! Our summers are drying too, especially the South Fork of LI. Little rain most summers, and definitely fewer rain days, most of it is from tropical lows. Anyway, much love from across the pond
Can you blame us? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds to hear that it's "warmer", when you have to put on 3 layers of clothes, including an uncomfortably thick coat, and dig your car out of 2 feet (60 cm) of snow. Not only that, you get shamed Inquisition-style for pointing out that it's actually colder and all the damage the cold weather is causing. I don't know what changed in Italy, but America is most certainly NOT warmer.
FL sure is. Look up the above vs below normal temps since 2011 and let us know.
FL sure is. Look up the above vs below normal temps since 2011 and let us know.
Florida's always been warm. That's why everybody and their brother are moving there, especially as other states get "warmer". A few degrees more, a few degrees less, big deal! It's nothing compared to a winter with endless -10*F temperatures and massive snowfalls, when many winters seldom hit single digits and get 7 in. of snow at most.
The climate has always changed and it always will - regardless of the number of people on this planet. Certainly 7 billion people can create a little warmth. But to think that we mere mortals can alter (significantly) the course of a planet and solar system this enormous is to give humans way more power then they actually have......
Expect more warming, then cooling, then neither. Rinse and repeat.
Can you blame us? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds to hear that it's "warmer", when you have to put on 3 layers of clothes, including an uncomfortably thick coat, and dig your car out of 2 feet (60 cm) of snow. Not only that, you get shamed Inquisition-style for pointing out that it's actually colder and all the damage the cold weather is causing. I don't know what changed in Italy, but America is most certainly NOT warmer.
You're aware there are other countries in the world and that ice is melting everywhere, with most averages going warmer, right ?
Also the colder events in the US might also be a consequence of all of this after all.
About inquisition-style questioning, sorry but data exists and everyone is free to check it out.
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