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Old 09-15-2023, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Saskatoon - Saskatchewan, Canada
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenzhou

Latitude: 25⁰N
Elevation: ~200m

January daily mean: 6.4⁰C / 43⁰F
Average snowy days: 6.3 !!!

That's unbelievable for me, a south american. This latitude is so near the tropics, where winters are mostly warm on average and snow is completely impossible. Other places in similar coordinates around the globe barely have a winter at all.

North american cities have better historical record lows but their winters are not as consistently cool/cold on average and don't have as much snowy days.
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Old 09-15-2023, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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Yeah, it is. The record lows seem to be fairly cold too, a few degrees colder than Miami or Monterrey's which are at a similar latitude and still in the northern hemisphere.
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Old 09-15-2023, 03:13 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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This has to be one of the best climates on the planet located this far south. Amazing that it still has snow and chilly winters that close to the tropics. No dry season, either!
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Old 09-15-2023, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Saskatoon - Saskatchewan, Canada
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Yeah, it is. The record lows seem to be fairly cold too, a few degrees colder than Miami or Monterrey's which are at a similar latitude and still in the northern hemisphere.
I was thinking in Brownsville, Texas with a record low of -11⁰C. But the January daily mean is 17.2⁰C, more than 10⁰C warmer than Chenzhou. Winters are much more consistently cold in Chenzhou.

Chenzhou has winter averages similar to places well above 30⁰ latitude in North America and above 35-40⁰ in other parts of the world.

Really incredible.
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Old 09-15-2023, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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This has to be one of the best climates on the planet located this far south. Amazing that it still has snow and chilly winters that close to the tropics. No dry season, either!
Summers are armpit weather, and winters are incredibly gloomy with only 16-17% possible sunshine, even fall and spring when temperatures are at their most pleasant, are still quite gloomy... I think somewhere like Bandung, Belo Horizonte or Kampala is much nicer. Even somewhere hotter like Kinshasa is preferable in my books.

If you like a cooler subtropical climate with snow, you might like Shimla, India. Or if snow is now essential, then Ziro, India.
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Old 09-15-2023, 10:39 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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Summers are armpit weather, and winters are incredibly gloomy with only 16-17% possible sunshine, even fall and spring when temperatures are at their most pleasant, are still quite gloomy... I think somewhere like Bandung, Belo Horizonte or Kampala is much nicer. Even somewhere hotter like Kinshasa is preferable in my books.

If you like a cooler subtropical climate with snow, you might like Shimla, India. Or if snow is now essential, then Ziro, India.
Shimla's at 31 N, this is 25 N. And I'm not a big fan of bright sun. And Chenzhou's summers are only really bad for about 3 months of the year (and it did lose significant points over this), most of the year is pretty comfortable. Granted, Chenzhou's not a great climate; in fact, it's not even very good. But for the latitude, I can't see anything near sea level beating it. I'd take it over literally any climate that's never seen snow or a freeze. My climatic preferences can't stand climates where the weather is the same year round.

Chenzhou: 67.7% / D+.
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Old 09-16-2023, 09:49 AM
 
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Very cold for the latitude. Looks a lot like Birmingham, Alabama, which is 8 degrees of latitude further north.
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Old 10-11-2023, 02:41 PM
 
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Not just snow. Chenzhou also has freezing rain quite often.
In 2008, there was a severe winter storm and Chenzhou had been out of power and water for two weeks.

https://www.deseret.com/2008/2/6/200...-chenzhou-city
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Cold, exhausted residents stood in long lines for water and gasoline. One woman did laundry on the sidewalk using a plastic basin and water from a fire hydrant, the sleeves of her bulky coat rolled up to the elbows. Others washed vegetables in front of shuttered storefronts.

"It is extremely cold and inconvenient. I haven't had a shower for about 10 days," said a Chenzhou travel agent who gave only her surname, Hong.

Prices of food, candles and charcoal briquettes used for heating and cooking have shot up — quadrupling in some cases — due to shortages, residents said.

Temperatures in Chenzhou hovered around 34 degrees, and were expected to dip below freezing Thursday.
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Old 10-11-2023, 03:53 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Wow! Same latitude as Miami, even
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Old 10-11-2023, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Arteaga, Coahuila
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One of the reasons why Asia has the best Subtropical climates, you can experience all 4 seasons without having to go much further north, the perks are obviously the absolutely unlivable climates over 50°N
Kamchatka is Subartic at the latitude of Germany.
I'll give it a B+
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