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Old 01-16-2024, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Cant just be an all snow event.



Here you can see the temperatures at 5000'.

The infamous warm nose.

The freezing line is pushing towards northern CT now.

It WILL NEVER snow when this level is above freezing

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Old 01-16-2024, 10:49 AM
 
Location: 30461
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RIP Houston George Bush Airport, at least this was made up with the record late first frost and the record warm 1C annual minimum in 2023. Which I really like getting compensated with, especially compared to palm growers who will not get compensated.

I will say though that this means Gainesville Airport is likely to win its contest with Houston. Just like it did during the Christmas 2022 cold front, when it got exactly as cold as the usual seasonal minimum vs George Bush Airport getting 6C colder.

Come on out Cold Epoch Anthony! We need to know what you think.

It will be fun to see how mild they end up compared to places like Houston and Galveston and even Brownsville. Not something you see every winter.
Texas has no water to the north of it to moderate any blasts coming down from the upper midwest and Canada. If Anthony is smart, he would have hightailed it to central or southern Florida by now.

Edit: I do need to point out that Gainesville can get colder annums, but only during years with lots of radiational cooling events and no strong advective arctic blasts pushing south from western Canada. Good luck with that!
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:53 AM
 
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Texas has no water to the north of it to moderate any blasts coming down from the upper midwest and Canada. If Anthony is smart, he would have hightailed it to central or southern Florida by now.
I've also heard it said that it's because of the lack of the protection of the Appalachians (like South Carolina and Georgia at similar latitudes to Texas have), and being more directly in the path of the cold fronts thanks to being centrally located longitude-wise by North America standards. Fascinating to think about.

Wonder where Anthony did go, if he really did hightail it to central/south Florida he'd probably be all over Palmtalk and here again.

Edit: yes, you are correct. Gainesville Airport's usual seasonal minimum is -5.1C vs -3C for Houston George Bush Airport, the key is that if they're getting to -5C because of an advective cold front, Houston George Bush is going to be worse off the majority of the times.
If they are going to get colder than Houston George Bush it has to be radiational. February 20 2015 and January 30 2022 come to mind - but as you say, the radiation needs all the good luck it can get this winter.
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Old 01-16-2024, 12:18 PM
 
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Pattern flips in about 5 days









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Old 01-16-2024, 12:19 PM
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Had about 1-2" of snow in LI, NY. However, freezing rain in the late morning.
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Old 01-16-2024, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Pattern flips in about 5 days


Gross. I was enjoying a fairly cool FL winter by recent standards. I see 80s on the horizon.
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Old 01-16-2024, 02:01 PM
 
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Old 01-16-2024, 04:50 PM
 
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Gross. I was enjoying a fairly cool FL winter by recent standards. I see 80s on the horizon.
Once Feb gets here you will see 90's inland. Got jack for rain as it just missed me all around me.
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Old 01-16-2024, 04:52 PM
 
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George Bush Airport down to 18 F, smashing their average 1991-2020 yearly low of 26 F.
Subtropical paradise Galveston down to 24 F. One of the worst overall hot climates ever for growing sensitive vegetation.

Attention now is on the USDA's most palm friendly place in Georgia: Zone 9B Tybee Island has a 32 F low forecast for tonight, and special spot Gainesville has a 30 F forecast. Let's see if Gainesville as well as all non-Florida locations in the south Atlantic will freeze tonight.
Nothing close to 32f in my area. Won't see a temp below 41f all winter like a few years ago.
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Old 01-16-2024, 05:13 PM
 
Location: East Coast USA
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Nothing close to 32f in my area. Won't see a temp below 41f all winter like a few years ago.

Looks like the 40 F line will be just north of Tampa Bay....to north of Orlando....to around New Smyrna Beach on the East Coast:


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