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Old 04-21-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Sunshine in order of high to low:

Perth
Melbourne
Auckland & Wellington tie.

Perth is practially bone dry from November - April with hot temperatures & gets heatwaves few times per "dry and hot" season. Winter tends to be quite wet with high number of rain (or showery) days but with resonable amount of sunny days although it varies from year to year. It can also get windy in Perth, Perth is the windiest state capital in Australia. Long periods of humidity are not common, on very hot days, it will usually be dry with little humidity.

Perth gets about 850mm (119 raindays per annum), Melbourne gets much less with around 650mm on 146 days pa (though the current drought lasting 13 years will have reduced the averages significantly).

Auckland (131 raindays of 1 mm+ pa) and Wellington (123 raindays of 1 mm + pa) averages around 1200 - 1250mm. Winter is the wettest season in NZ's North Island (expect a lot of rain days per winter but NZ is subject to variable weather, a winter month can resemble a spring month and vice versa) and summer often the driest.
Auckland and Wellington are not tied for sunshine - you are no doubt using non-current information.

Current Auckland sites have a 30-year rolling mean of about 2030 hrs
- Wellington's is 2098 (current to 2008) and has been in a rising trend for a considerable time now.

 
Old 04-21-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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False - see the post with numbers in it.
False my ***. Average high of 21-22C in the warmest month vs 27C. Food for thought
 
Old 04-22-2009, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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Auckland and Wellington are not tied for sunshine - you are no doubt using non-current information.

Current Auckland sites have a 30-year rolling mean of about 2030 hrs
- Wellington's is 2098 (current to 2008) and has been in a rising trend for a considerable time now.
Looking at NIWA, the current Auckland site shows 2139 hours as the average. Other sites had averages ranging from 2021 to 2096 hours. The difference between Wellington and Auckland's sunshine isn't really that great.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Looking at NIWA, the current Auckland site shows 2139 hours as the average. Other sites had averages ranging from 2021 to 2096 hours. The difference between Wellington and Auckland's sunshine isn't really that great.
The current site does not have an average of 2139 - that is blatantly wrong. 2039 woudl be nearer the truth. Show me exactly where you got that number...
 
Old 04-22-2009, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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False my ***. Average high of 21-22C in the warmest month vs 27C. Food for thought
I don't care if you ignore mathematics or don't understand the meaning of "mean annual temperature" - it is not the average daily high in the summer months!

I suggest to anyone reading this thread who wants authoritative information about the climate of Melbourne and Victoria to ask Dr David Jones of BOM, who lives in the region.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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I don't care if you ignore mathematics or don't understand the meaning of "mean annual temperature" - it is not the average daily high in the summer months!
San Francisco's annual mean high is 17C, whereas Melbourne's is 20C. Annual mean lows are nearly identical. Dispute it all you want. If you still think San Francisco is warmer regardless of what type of stats or timeframe you use, well then you're completely full of crap.

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I suggest to anyone reading this thread who wants authoritative information about the climate of Melbourne and Victoria to ask Dr David Jones of BOM, who lives in the region.
Or they could just look it up on the BOM website.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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The current site does not have an average of 2139 - that is blatantly wrong. 2039 woudl be nearer the truth. Show me exactly where you got that number...
How can NIWA be "blatantly" wrong seeing I got those figures from them.

Add up the figures from Mangere EWS and you’ll find the average is 2139 when all monthly averages added up (or 2157 if averaged from just the yearly totals).

The 2039 hours you’re quoting, which site is that from?
 
Old 04-22-2009, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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How can NIWA be "blatantly" wrong seeing I got those figures from them.
This guy is also convinced the San Francisco is hotter than Melbourne. He's full of it dude.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 07:45 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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SF city itself might be cooler than Melbourne, but at least nearby suburbs and cities like Concord and San Jose have warmer, sunnier weather. Melbourne's metro has a similar climate throughout, with the hilly eastern suburbs being even wetter.

In terms of unpleasantly I would definitely choose Melbourne over SF city...A July high of 18.4C is just ridiculous, that is, coincidentally, the exact high July high for Perth in winter!
 
Old 04-22-2009, 07:46 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Auckland and Wellington are not tied for sunshine - you are no doubt using non-current information.

Current Auckland sites have a 30-year rolling mean of about 2030 hrs
- Wellington's is 2098 (current to 2008) and has been in a rising trend for a considerable time now.
I'd still take Auckland's warmer temperatures and less windy anyday...Christchurch also clocks around 2100 hours a year I believe.
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