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The thing about temperate climates, at least where I live, is that while it is rainy and just warm enough to not snow from Nov.-Mar., the average summer day is about 80 with low humidity and usually no rain in sight. It's pretty much the best weather on earth during those summer months.
Well, like I mentioned in another thread in my opinion, I think there are three basic types of subtropical climates
cool winter-hot summer subtype - Eg. Dallas, TX, Shanghai, China, Raleigh, NC
warm winter-hot summer subtype - Eg. Orlando, FL, Hong Kong, China, Brisbane, Australia
warm winter-cool summer subtype - Eg. San Francisco, CA, Bogota, Colombia, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
NYC I suppose could be said to be right on the cusp between temperate and subtropical as its average January temp is at 32F (0C) and has 7 vs 8 months of 10C and above....
The biggest problem with Temperate climates for me anyways, is that the winters are far too cold....I think many of us agree with that and subtropical climates are superior in that regard.
Where I'm from, it's easy to have daytime highs at 12 C or below from late-Sep until mid-May:
That's almost 8 straight months where it's weather you "could" need at least a coat, midday.
*Could be "fine" if the only kind of weather you hate is "heat", but I'm not one of those people.
**With Toronto being at the colder end of "temperate," few people would consider Toronto's normal temperatures "balanced";
we definitely err toward the colder or at least cooler side most of the year, and occaisionally in summer too,
so we are probably the reverse of what Derek was saying about "sub-tropical" climates.
Last edited by ColdCanadian; 11-18-2009 at 09:17 AM..
They are way over-dramatized! I've been to beaches when its 70 and people are wearing sweat suits and winter coats! Please, give me a break!
Agreed, i lived in houston all of my life and the minute its below 70, i see all people wearing sweaters. wonder what would happen if thwy had to go to Chi town.....whoo wee!!!
Although New York is technically in a subtropical climate, I really wouldn't consider it that. Average highs between December and February are in the upper 30s and lower 40s. Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, etc. are truly subtropical.
not even subtropical, more like humid continental. tx,LA, Ga,Miss,Fl and all of the gulf section is TRULY subtropical
not even subtropical, more like humid continental. tx,LA, Ga,Miss,Fl and all of the gulf section is TRULY subtropical
Nah, Winters in NYC/Philly/Bmore/DC are too "mild" to be considered humid continental.
Subtropical is better than Temperate imo. Even though the climate I live in is just barely Subtropical we still get nights that don't drop below 80 in the Summer, most nights are in the low-70's but upper-60's to mid/upper-70's are common too. Most days are in the mid-80's to low-90's.
Most Winter days are in the 40's, even that is too cold for me. I'm already acclimate to mid-Spring after this stretch of nice weather, I was actually cold today and we were still above average by a few degrees (maybe because it was cloudy though).
IMO Anywhere that gets even a smidgen of snow is not even remotely subtropical, even if summers fit the bill.
Personally, I reckon an average low/high during the coldest month of 10C/50F , 20C/68F should be the minimum to be considered subtropical. Anything colder is temperate.
IMO Anywhere that gets even a smidgen of snow is not even remotely subtropical, even if summers fit the bill.
Personally, I reckon an average low/high during the coldest month of 10C/50F , 20C/68F should be the minimum to be considered subtropical. Anything colder is temperate.
This opinion is coming from someone who has lived their whole life in one city so don't read too much into it....Young ones think they know everything...lol
Personally, I reckon an average low/high during the coldest month of 10C/50F , 20C/68F should be the minimum to be considered subtropical. Anything colder is temperate.
^^ Brisbane isn't even that warm in winter, by your definitions to be "sub-tropical."
To me, a "sub-tropical summer" should have the 3 warmest monthly-means of 24+ C (75+ F)
I think I would find Brisbane's summers barely-subtropical,
while Perth's summers may be short of the "3 months of 24+ C monthly-mean."
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