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Old 05-14-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Actually, the more I think about it, the more I see how similar the two climates are. They're almost identical in many respects.

I guess one significant difference is that Durban has a much steeper gradient going inland. Some inland suburbs are over 500 m AMSL. This means you get greater climactic variety (I assume).

SSTs are pretty much the same, 21 - 27 for Brisbane and 22 - 26 for Durban. Annual rainfall for both cities averages around 1000 mm.

Durban has about 6 sunshine hours in its cloudiest months, so Brisbane beats it in that department, but not by a huge margin.

Durban winters are significantly dryer; Brisbane has 70% more June - August rainfall and more than double the number of rain days during this period.

I'd probably rather live in Brisbane due to Durban's high crime rate. But I prefer Durban's climate because of the dryer, warmer winters. Everytime I've been in Brisbane during the winter it's been marginally under my "shorts and t-shirt" threshold whereas Durban is probably just over it.

But overall you're right, there's not a lot of difference.
I'd take Brisbane for its higher sunshine - but then I prefer Mediterranean or desert types over these ones anyway.
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:31 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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I'd take Brisbane for its higher sunshine - but then I prefer Mediterranean or desert types over these ones anyway.
Is that why you live in Wellington?
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Is that why you live in Wellington?
Now then - Ch'ch ain't exactly desert territory either! (and W'gton gets about the same amount of sun). If it were a practical option for me, I'd live in NZ's sunniest zones. But I've had holidays in deserts (Atacama) and spent over 3 very sunny weeks in the dry season in east-central Brazil. Arizona is on the list of future destinations...
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Actually, the more I think about it, the more I see how similar the two climates are. They're almost identical in many respects.

I guess one significant difference is that Durban has a much steeper gradient going inland. Some inland suburbs are over 500 m AMSL. This means you get greater climactic variety (I assume).

SSTs are pretty much the same, 21 - 27 for Brisbane and 22 - 26 for Durban. Annual rainfall for both cities averages around 1000 mm.

Durban has about 6 sunshine hours in its cloudiest months, so Brisbane beats it in that department, but not by a huge margin.

Durban winters are significantly dryer; Brisbane has 70% more June - August rainfall and more than double the number of rain days during this period.

I'd probably rather live in Brisbane due to Durban's high crime rate. But I prefer Durban's climate because of the dryer, warmer winters.

Everytime I've been in Brisbane during the winter it's been marginally under my "shorts and t-shirt" threshold whereas Durban is probably just over it.

But overall you're right, there's not a lot of difference.
Can you describe typical winter temp patterns between Durban and Brisbane?

Warmer drier winters may be a plus; especially the warmer part.
Though if Durban's winter is drier with a similar annual total, wouldn't summer be wetter?
I don't think I'd want a summer any wetter than Brisbane.

With winter avgs as low as 20/9 C (68/48 F), the sunshine for me would "make-or-break" comfort in short sleeves.
I don't think I'd like short sleeves under 18 C (65 F) unless I was getting some immediate sun warmth.
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Old 05-15-2010, 11:57 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Sadly, I've never been in a desert, except for a one day drive to Las Vegas from LA.
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Subarctic maritime Melbourne
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Can you describe typical winter temp patterns between Durban and Brisbane?

Warmer drier winters may be a plus; especially the warmer part.
Though if Durban's winter is drier with a similar annual total, wouldn't summer be wetter?
I don't think I'd want a summer any wetter than Brisbane.

With winter avgs as low as 20/9 C (68/48 F), the sunshine for me would "make-or-break" comfort in short sleeves.
I don't think I'd like short sleeves under 18 C (65 F) unless I was getting some immediate sun warmth.
It's truly surprising how cold Brisbane gets in winter. The inland suburbs have seen temps as low as -3C in winter, and I remember atleast one instance of of -5C temps at Amberely (airforce base in the westernmost suburbs). Infact temps of around 5C are normal in that area in winter. Some of the outlying towns such as Kilcoy and Dalby get winter lows colder than anything Melbourne is ever likely to see. For example, Dalby, about 200km inland from Brisbane has seen a -5C low in June last year.
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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It's truly surprising how cold Brisbane gets in winter. The inland suburbs have seen temps as low as -3C in winter, and I remember atleast one instance of of -5C temps at Amberely (airforce base in the westernmost suburbs). Infact temps of around 5C are normal in that area in winter. Some of the outlying towns such as Kilcoy and Dalby get winter lows colder than anything Melbourne is ever likely to see. For example, Dalby, about 200km inland from Brisbane has seen a -5C low in June last year.
Lowest daily-means would interest me more than record lows, if you know any stats.
(it affects objects with high thermal mass )

Many parts of Oz's inland north average maybe 24 C/75 F in the day, but lows of 8 C/46 F or less overnight.

My opinions on "winter" (chilly-season) daily-means:

16 C/60 F = Winter? What winter?
13 C/56 F = pretty good
10 C/50 F = quite chilly
7 C/45 F = true grossness begins
4 C/40 F = get me out of here!
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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My opinions on "winter" (chilly-season) daily-means:

16 C/60 F = Winter? What winter?
13 C/56 F = pretty good
10 C/50 F = quite chilly
7 C/45 F = true grossness begins
4 C/40 F = get me out of here!
Are those daily highs or 24-hour means?

Australian climate data is available from the excellent Bureau of Meteorology website: Climate Data Online

Coldest month mean overnight lows in the Brisbane region range from about 7 - 12, depending on distance from the coast.
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:27 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Lowest daily-means would interest me more than record lows, if you know any stats.
(it affects objects with high thermal mass )

Many parts of Oz's inland north average maybe 24 C/75 F in the day, but lows of 8 C/46 F or less overnight.

My opinions on "winter" (chilly-season) daily-means:

16 C/60 F = Winter? What winter?
13 C/56 F = pretty good
10 C/50 F = quite chilly
7 C/45 F = true grossness begins
4 C/40 F = get me out of here!

Wow... I can see why you want to get out of Canada so badly Virtually everywhere in this country has daily means in winter under 4C / 40F Also, why I want to leave as well
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Old 05-18-2010, 02:44 AM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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It's truly surprising how cold Brisbane gets in winter. The inland suburbs have seen temps as low as -3C in winter, and I remember atleast one instance of of -5C temps at Amberely (airforce base in the westernmost suburbs). Infact temps of around 5C are normal in that area in winter. Some of the outlying towns such as Kilcoy and Dalby get winter lows colder than anything Melbourne is ever likely to see. For example, Dalby, about 200km inland from Brisbane has seen a -5C low in June last year.
A few cold nights does not consititute a winter.
And I can assure you, winter is a non-event up there.
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