10-09-2009, 11:56 AM
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Victoria Groves-Shoma Townhomes
the directions are attached at the bottom, basically it's north of the mall on 441 and in/part of the Victoria Groves subdivision. Some one told my husband that it's ghetto in there, low income.
Please anyone who knows?????
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LocationWellington, FL, 33414, Palm Beach County
Development—
Sub-Div
Shoma Townhomes @ Royal Palm Beach
TypeVilla Attch/Half Dup
GEO AreaPB24F S
Lvg SqFt1,932Ttl Sqft
Property Notes
Remarks: Unit and Carpets will be professionally cleaned. Great Floor Plan. Bedroom & Bath on 1st Floor. Eat In Kitchen and Separate Dining Room. Great Location, close to Wellington Mall. Convenient for Dining. Excellent Schools.
Directions: South of Southern on W Side of 441 into Victoria Groves, R into Townhomes
10-09-2009, 12:15 PM
Location: Palm Beach County
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Probably not where you want to be after being in Alden Ridge...
10-09-2009, 01:47 PM
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Not a good choice, for multiple reasons:
10-09-2009, 02:42 PM
Location: Palm Beach County
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I showed a unit there and while we were typing in the code to get in car plowed right through the gate. Thought that was pretty interesting to say the least.
10-09-2009, 03:56 PM
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thanks. yes I drove in there today. Stopped a man getting out of his car and asked him about the demographics. He owns but rents the unit so he didn't know for sure but was giving off a 'vibe' to me....and mentioned section 8 renters being multiple.
that was it for me!
we are under a solid contract right now as of last Sunday. inspection is Monday and we are concerned about the appraisal coming in (or not).
my husband is really stressing about finding a place to rent for our duration here in FL...we looked yesterday at 3 places, Winston Trails (2) and one in Quail Run (I think?) off Congress south. All nasty dirty, needed paint, stained carpets dated, one had NO ceiling fans but in the family room w/no outlets even for fans in the bedrooms. needless to say, my husband was disappointed. what do these owners who rent out think? don't they atleast get the notion to 'clean' the place, 'clean' the carpet first, and a fresh coat of paint? atleast one coat?????
he is not looking forward to renting for 18mos in what we've seen recently that's out there.....less than what our house is, which is very nice and clean.
we just can't conceive how some people live in dirt and squalor. yikes.
we have found some nice places to rent but who knows if they'll be available when we are free to put down a deposit (if that happens) in no sooner than a few wks.
what will be will be! now, if only my husband could wrap his head around that and stop stressing!
(he is so not usually the stresser of the family, I am. =)
thanks.
10-10-2009, 05:39 AM
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I can relate to the stress. I too am looking for a new place and it is very hard not knowing the good and bad points of places. This forum has been very helpful. I am from a state where basically a whole city is safe or not which is not the same in FL. Also I have called on so many rentals that are scams. I have heard more it got rented today yet it was posted that day. I am not sure your budget and I have no clue what these are like but have you check in the polo club of Wellington St Andrews. It is not the west palm one but in the polo club of Wellington. I felt very safe when I rented in the there but never saw St Andrews but heard it is in there. Just a thought. Good luck
10-12-2009, 10:21 AM
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Quote:
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DaniellaG
I can relate to the stress. I too am looking for a new place and it is very hard not knowing the good and bad points of places. This forum has been very helpful. I am from a state where basically a whole city is safe or not which is not the same in FL. Also I have called on so many rentals that are scams. I have heard more it got rented today yet it was posted that day. I am not sure your budget and I have no clue what these are like but have you check in the polo club of Wellington St Andrews. It is not the west palm one but in the polo club of Wellington. I felt very safe when I rented in the there but never saw St Andrews but heard it is in there. Just a thought. Good luck
St. Andrews use to be apartments around 10 years ago . Then they went Condo conversion so you must have rented from an owner? Not a bad location, close to Forest Hill and PB Polo. I'd be a little concerned though with what is across the road of of the 12th Fairway, the area is a noted high crime area. Don't know if it is spreading on the south side of Forest hill and around South Shore but it's getting worse.
10-12-2009, 10:59 AM
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Thanks. I had never rented St Andrews but did in the polo club of Wellington. I really felt safe in there as it was gated but they only seem to have in season rentals for the most part
10-12-2009, 08:44 PM
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I live in Black Diamond, the neighborhood literally right next to Victoria Groves. This is the apartment complex next to the Publix? If so, its probably not a great area to be in. It's literally the only area of Wellington that can be considered close to ghetto. There are plenty of nicer complexes in the area though (south florida is full of them, after all)
10-13-2009, 08:13 AM
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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westpalm1120
I live in Black Diamond, the neighborhood literally right next to Victoria Groves. This is the apartment complex next to the Publix? If so, its probably not a great area to be in. It's literally the only area of Wellington that can be considered close to ghetto. There are plenty of nicer complexes in the area though (south florida is full of them, after all)
Yes it's right next to Publix where Anthony Groves was once upon a time. There are a few "ghetto" areas in Wellington, The 12th Fairway off of Wellington Trace and Forest Hill is among the worst area in Welly World now also near Wellington Trace and Greenview Shores is another area.
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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we just can't conceive how some people live in dirt and squalor. yikes. 
(he is so not usually the stresser of the family, I am. =)
