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Old 04-11-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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they do not even have 3500 sq foot homes in boca isles? for 500K budget you will be looking ta 3000 sq foot max
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Old 04-11-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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There aren't that many equity golf communities in Boca R and lots of alternatives.

Fewer alternatives if you want to live behind gates.

Check out, with your budget, the houses east of Mizner Park. None are at your desired square footages, but some are large and they are at a much better address than the golf communities, imo. Boca is built out near the ocean. Buying in that area is a good investment. As the gated communities, most built in the 80s-90s, age, they command lower prices than they once did.
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Old 04-11-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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I have to disagree with the statement that the gated communities are commanding lower prices than they once were, unless you're comparing today's prices to 2007 or 2008, when the prices were at their highest. Look at the listings for Saturnia, Boca Isles and The Shores. The prices are constantly going up, and they're selling. Now if you're talking about golf communities, which are gated as well but have high equity costs, you may be right about that. I don't think that the next generations will want to come up with $35,000 to over $50,000 just to live in a community. I see that some of Stonebridge's prices seem quite low, and it's probably going to start happening to the better golf club communities (St. Andrew's, Broken Sound, Woodfield) as well. I have grown children in their 30's and there's no way they would want to live there.
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Old 04-11-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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I just looked at bocaexecutiverealtydotcom (I have no connection to them, but they have a good site) and right off the bat I found 3 houses in Boca Isles ranging from $529,999 down to $500,000 with well over 3500 square feet each. There were more, but I stopped looking. Unless there's a bidding war, I would think that $529,999 can come down to close to $500,000. I haven't been in them to see the condition, but the pictures look pretty nice.
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Old 04-11-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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that is because bocaexective is showing total sq foot and not living or air conditioned sq foot. I have access to MLS and there is no homes period 3500 sq foot in boca isles, does not exist. You can also look up actual sq footage on papa site, a lot of realtors deceive people and show total sq foot, with garage etc . So please do not believe what you read on some realtors internet site and do your due diligence

here is active listings in boca isles

19722 Black Olive Lane , 409,000, 2118 sq ft

10845 Japonica Court, $430,000 2785 sq ft

10799 Tea Olive Lane, $450,000, 2325 sq ft

10794 Maple Chase Drive, $470,000, 2660 sq ft

19650 Black Olive Lane, $479,900, 2676 sq ft

10581 Saint Thomas Drive, $489,900, 2935 sq ft

19042 Cypress Crik Court, $509,000, 2875 sq ft

20106 Ocean Key Drive, $529,999, 2805 sq ft

actually looking at papa there is only 1 home over 3500 sq feet in entire community, that is 1 of 1349 homes, address is 10667 MAPLE CHASE DR and it is not for sale and is 3673 sq feet. second largest home is close at 3456. there are 3 others over 3300 sq feet, then there is quite a few at 3289.

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Old 04-11-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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I stand corrected! What is this papa site of which you speak?
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Old 04-11-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Got it - property appraiser.
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Old 04-11-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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I just got off the phone with people that live In Boca. They said that West Boca meaning west of 441 has more mosquitoes is hotter and rains more during the rainy season. Do you find that to be true?. Thanks
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Old 04-11-2015, 07:53 PM
 
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The part about mosquitoes is probably true because West Boca is close to the Everglades. Most houses have screened enclosures so you don't really notice them though. I can sit out at night and not be bothered. I'm not sure about the rain. There have been times that it rains heavily here and it's dry in the east, but other times while driving I've been caught in a downpour in the east, and it's dry as a bone when I get home to West Boca. That's just anecdotal though; there's probably some actual facts out there instead of anecdotes and conjecture.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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I rented in Boca Raton several decades ago, around Powerline/Palmetto Park Rd before buying a house in the town of Boca itself (east of Military Trail). I didn't check out gated communities--the gated rentals had been bad enough.

I have posted this before, but I would not buy property in unincorporated Palm Beach County (Boca remains a postal address, but these communities are not in Boca Raton). The zoning laws allow builders to overbuild. The traffic is a nightmare. Services aren't the same. It's actually nice looking in Boca Del Mar, where I was renting in various places. But the services aren't there and the zoning is non-existent.

I was looking at a house around Glades and 441 and found out there was a sewage treatment facility next door that the realtor never mentioned. I also learned that houses there depreciate rather often. They appreciate in Boca. My house is quite modest and not gussied up, and not gated. It is now worth three times what I pd for it in the 1990s. It took a beating in 2008 but it came back.

Just do your research. When I rented out in W Boca no one ever told me I was in unincorporated Palm Beach County.

ETA: Puglover, I am sure you are right about the communities you mention--my house search was not centered on these particular communities.

I think people considering a move to this area should consider the cons of traffic and spotty services in W Boca. I was there five years and the quality of life was lower in West Boca, just in my experience anyway. Honestly, I've never heard a realtor give full disclosure on a property down here.

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