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Old 01-30-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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Uh-huh....
Actually I am mistaken. I was thinking of Marietta which is near Parkersburg.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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What can you tell me about Ohio? How are the small towns there? I have a friend that lives in Cinncinnati, but I know that's further out...
I'm not familiar with lots of Ohio's small towns, but I lived in Marietta for 26 years (and still live only a few miles away in Parkersburg). It's safe, friendly, and charming (if you like Victorian/Edwardian downtowns); economically, it's seen better days.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:12 PM
 
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I'm not familiar with lots of Ohio's small towns, but I lived in Marietta for 26 years (and still live only a few miles away in Parkersburg). It's safe, friendly, and charming (if you like Victorian/Edwardian downtowns); economically, it's seen better days.
Well Ohio as a whole is not doing very good right now. It has been hit hard by the decline of manufacturing. It was once one of America's wealthiest states.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Are there many facilities for boarding horses, lessons, etc? Hows the job market, schools?
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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I hate to say it... but it looks like my fiance and I will be heading back East in May... briefly stopping in WV and then heading over to Maryland where I'm applying for teaching positions that actually pay well respectively compared to the COL, and because its a progressive non-police state.
You should be rolling your eyes over that one. Generally, the more conservative states have fewer laws and more individual choice and responsibility while the more liberal ones have more regulations and laws (fewer individual freedoms) to cause folks to conform to social engineering "norms"... smoke 50 feet from buildings, wear helmets, etc. ... all for your own good, of course. Don't forget, Hitler was a socialist.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Don't forget, Hitler was a socialist.
Yes, and China is a People's Republic... Let's be real, Hitler was a fascist. "National Socialist German Workers' Party" doesn't portray what it really meant to be a Nazi.

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You should be rolling your eyes over that one. Generally, the more conservative states have fewer laws and more individual choice and responsibility while the more liberal ones have more regulations and laws (fewer individual freedoms) to cause folks to conform to social engineering "norms"... smoke 50 feet from buildings, wear helmets, etc. ... all for your own good, of course.
I'm not sure if I quite understand how you're making the connection between a state being liberal and that state practicing social engineering. Laws that require helmets? Damn right, that's for your own good! Anyone who would operate a motorcycle without a helmet is an idiot and the chances of death or permanent injury should an accident occur are astronomically higher without one. Smoking 50 feet from buildings? Again, if you want to smoke cigarettes, that's your prerogative, but I'm surely not trying to get cancer from someone else's vile habit. That's one of my biggest issues with West Virginia. Until very recently, you could still smoke in restaurants in Mon County. Cigarette smoke absolutely ruins the taste of food for me. Even now, I can't walk into the Mountainlair or a myriad of other buildings on campus without smoking someone else's cigarette. I've heard this "individual freedoms" argument before, but I still fail to see exactly what freedoms I missed out on my whole life as a resident of Maryland. Another argument that dumbfounds me is that liberal states are mired in debt, corruption, failure, etc. Maryland (my home state and the state that GHO has expressed interest in moving to) is a Democratic stronghold (although only the urbanized areas really bleed blue), yet it is bursting with job and population growth, is annually ranked among the wealthiest states in the nation, has had the number one public school system in the nation for the past several years, etc. etc. If Republican ideology is the way to prosperity, why aren't we hearing all about Alabama's success story??
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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How far is Morgantown from Charleston and Huntington? Do they have good grocery stores there because I love too eat! lol What about the shopping malls? I'm a shopaholic with IMPECCABLE taste! Any good YOGA studios around? Without yoga I would go crazy!(helps me mentally)
Per Bing, it is 156.6 miles from Charelston to Morgantown. Huntington would be in the neighborhood of 206 miles from Morgantown. All three towns have grocery stores (You weren't serious when you asked that, were you?), and all three have shopping malls. We have yoga here in Morgantown, and I'd be surprised if the other towns don't have it as well.

You really should take the time to visit all three towns and decide where you want to live based on real life impressions.
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:56 PM
 
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Yes, and China is a People's Republic... Let's be real, Hitler was a fascist. "National Socialist German Workers' Party" doesn't portray what it really meant to be a Nazi.


I'm not sure if I quite understand how you're making the connection between a state being liberal and that state practicing social engineering. Laws that require helmets? Damn right, that's for your own good! Anyone who would operate a motorcycle without a helmet is an idiot and the chances of death or permanent injury should an accident occur are astronomically higher without one. Smoking 50 feet from buildings? Again, if you want to smoke cigarettes, that's your prerogative, but I'm surely not trying to get cancer from someone else's vile habit. That's one of my biggest issues with West Virginia. Until very recently, you could still smoke in restaurants in Mon County. Cigarette smoke absolutely ruins the taste of food for me. Even now, I can't walk into the Mountainlair or a myriad of other buildings on campus without smoking someone else's cigarette. I've heard this "individual freedoms" argument before, but I still fail to see exactly what freedoms I missed out on my whole life as a resident of Maryland. Another argument that dumbfounds me is that liberal states are mired in debt, corruption, failure, etc. Maryland (my home state and the state that GHO has expressed interest in moving to) is a Democratic stronghold (although only the urbanized areas really bleed blue), yet it is bursting with job and population growth, is annually ranked among the wealthiest states in the nation, has had the number one public school system in the nation for the past several years, etc. etc. If Republican ideology is the way to prosperity, why aren't we hearing all about Alabama's success story??
There are different sorts of socialists, to be sure, but Hitler certainly was a socialist. He "nationalized" all sorts of things, and actually started Volkswagon which might well become the world's largest auto company. Under his regime, just about everything was taken care of by the government for German citizens and he solved his unemployment problems with a massive public works program similar to Roosevelts only he build Interstate type highways rather than public parks. I'm not trying to promote one political philosophy or another, and I happen to be a Democrat, I'm just pointing out that most people don't really understand the difference between left thinking and right thinking in terms of politics. In general the right wants less government in people's lives. That also includes fewer laws, more individual rights and more individual responsibilities. The left wants a large government that takes care of everything for people, and it generally wants more restrictions on them... more laws and regulations. It really has little to do with political party either.

I happen to be in favor of much less government interference in peoples' lives. In a free country, people have to have the freedom to make choices even if they are bad ones. It should be up to a business owner whether or not he permits smoking in his establishment. Now, should he be required to post a sign saying he does if he does? Absolutely. Then people can make an informed decision whether or not they wish to patronize the place. But it definitely should not be government's call. Helmet laws, even seat belt laws unless children or those under 18 are involved are other areas of excessive government interference. And, if the Government can't tell me to keep my wife's hands from between my knees, they shouldn't be able to tell me I can't talk on the phone. There are all sorts of "distractions" for driving. The only way to eliminate them is to go back to the horse and bugy. People have to use good sense, or they are responsible for the consequences. Social engineering does not work.

There are conservative Democrats (I'm one of those) and liberal Republicans (McCain is one of those and socially W was one too).

One more thing. I'm guessing you are a relatively young person. I happen to be an old man, and I remember when we had a whole lot more freedom in our country than we do today. We still have freedom of speech, but they are working on that one too by trying to get control of the internet. Since you aren't old enough to remember when it was different, all you have ever known is more government control. It is understandable that you, and others your age, would consider it normal but to tell you the truth that scares the hell out of me. When they pass a new law, they generally don't take an old one off the books. They just have another new one and individuals have one less freedom. What will my grandchildren consider to be normal?

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Old 02-11-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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There are different sorts of socialists, to be sure, but Hitler certainly was a socialist. He "nationalized" all sorts of things, and actually started Volkswagon which might well become the world's largest auto company. Under his regime, just about everything was taken care of by the government for German citizens and he solved his unemployment problems with a massive public works program similar to Roosevelts only he build Interstate type highways rather than public parks. I'm not trying to promote one political philosophy or another, and I happen to be a Democrat, I'm just pointing out that most people don't really understand the difference between left thinking and right thinking in terms of politics. In general the right wants less government in people's lives. That also includes fewer laws, more individual rights and more individual responsibilities. The left wants a large government that takes care of everything for people, and it generally wants more restrictions on them... more laws and regulations. It really has little to do with political party either.

I happen to be in favor of much less government interference in peoples' lives. In a free country, people have to have the freedom to make choices even if they are bad ones. It should be up to a business owner whether or not he permits smoking in his establishment. Now, should he be required to post a sign saying he does if he does? Absolutely. Then people can make an informed decision whether or not they wish to patronize the place. But it definitely should not be government's call. Helmet laws, even seat belt laws unless children or those under 18 are involved are other areas of excessive government interference. And, if the Government can't tell me to keep my wife's hands from between my knees, they shouldn't be able to tell me I can't talk on the phone. There are all sorts of "distractions" for driving. The only way to eliminate them is to go back to the horse and bugy. People have to use good sense, or they are responsible for the consequences. Social engineering does not work.

There are conservative Democrats (I'm one of those) and liberal Republicans (McCain is one of those and socially W was one too).

One more thing. I'm guessing you are a relatively young person. I happen to be an old man, and I remember when we had a whole lot more freedom in our country than we do today. We still have freedom of speech, but they are working on that one too by trying to get control of the internet. Since you aren't old enough to remember when it was different, all you have ever known is more government control. It is understandable that you, and others your age, would consider it normal but to tell you the truth that scares the hell out of me. When they pass a new law, they generally don't take an old one off the books. They just have another new one and individuals have one less freedom. What will my grandchildren consider to be normal?
I can certainly respect your point of view on these issues, even though I may not agree with them completely. You are correct in your assumption that I'm pretty young, as well. Given what views you shared in that post, I think it's safe to say that you are a shining example of a "West Virginia Democrat" with a "live and let live," "mind your own business and I'll do the same" mentality. I'm sure you're well aware that you're in the right place.
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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I'd say that pretty well sums it up. I also respect your right to have your views, but please don't try to impose them on me, or push for laws that do that. Our law books are growing at a rate of a foot a year and there are so many of them absolutely nobody knows what they really contain. You could scrap about 2/3 of the laws on the books and 99% of our people would absolutely be better off for it.

I was talking with a lovely young woman at a local restaurant last evening. I had ordered a beer (actually an ale) and she (the waitress) was lamenting the fact that it certainly looked good but she was a few months too young to purchase one in public. She was intelligent, and seemed quite mature. We have probably the only civilized country in the world that makes somebody be 21 years old before then can drink a light beer (3% alcohol). Nearly everywhere else it is 16. And because folks learn to drink responsibly in other countries they have few problems with the practice. Instead, we try to socially engineer them to not drink by supposedly denying them a beer until they are 21 (not that the law stops even a single person from doing it). In the process, we create a nation of binge drinkers who never learned to do it right and have legions of do gooders running around supporting that failed notion.

Anyway, I'm sure we're disgressing from the actual topic of this thread and it is probably a good idea to get back to it.
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