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Old 01-26-2012, 05:47 AM
 
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One thing is certain. As usual, our politicos in West Virginia are a day late, and likely a dollar short.

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Old 01-26-2012, 07:02 AM
 
Location: ADK via WV
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Thank goodness for people like Neely, so we can still have a Craker facility. If we are going to take advantage of our recourses, it should be us doing so and not big compaines from outside.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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I hope you are right, but Neely hasn't sealed the deal just yet. With the kind of money that's involved, it would be a miracle if a private individual could do that in today's economic climate. Then comes the issue of getting the wet gas, which is located far from where he wants to build it, to his cracker facility?
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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I think the New Martinsville location is an ideal location due to being more centralized.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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I'd be happy for any place in WV that could get it. But obviously I'm rooting for Kanawha County.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:59 AM
 
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One thing that is needed for this facility is multiple transport. Rail and highway in addition to pipeline and the only location in Wv is Charleston.

Obama helped the gas industry when he deep-sixed the Keystone Pipeline to Galveston.
We would have benefited from that Canadain oil and we were their first choice.
Now, the pipeline will depot to Vancouver and China will get the oil.

Who will win all of this in the end...in Wv, it will be the guy who owns all the gas...and he is very silent.
It's all about the money...it always has been.
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:04 AM
 
Location: ADK via WV
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One thing that is needed for this facility is multiple transport. Rail and highway in addition to pipeline and the only location in Wv is Charleston.

Obama helped the gas industry when he deep-sixed the Keystone Pipeline to Galveston.
We would have benefited from that Canadain oil and we were their first choice.
Now, the pipeline will depot to Vancouver and China will get the oil.

Who will win all of this in the end...in Wv, it will be the guy who owns all the gas...and he is very silent.
It's all about the money...it always has been.
Still though, Obama is making a huge mistake in turning down the Keystone project.

And I didn't think about Charleston's transportation capabilities, so yeas Charleston would be a better choice.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:13 PM
 
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Charleston is not the logical choice. The area between New Martinsville and Moundsville, or Belmont County (across from Wheeling), Ohio are the logical choices. That area has all three items... rail, roads, and river transport, plus their river facilities would be on the Ohio as opposed to the Kanawha. The Kanawha can only handle barges with a 9 foot draft. The Ohio in that region can easily handle 12 foot draft barges and that difference is huge. In addition, the Ohio Valley locations are right in the heart of the wet gas areas so there is much less of a problem with transport of raw material to processing. And, those locations are much closer to major population centers for further distribution of finished product.

Personally, I think Belmont County, OH gets the first cracker because, as usual, our politicians did a p*ss poor job of making things attractive enough for business investment,
and what they did do they likley did too late.
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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Charleston is not the logical choice. The area between New Martinsville and Moundsville, or Belmont County (across from Wheeling), Ohio are the logical choices. That area has all three items... rail, roads, and river transport, plus their river facilities would be on the Ohio as opposed to the Kanawha. The Kanawha can only handle barges with a 9 foot draft. The Ohio in that region can easily handle 12 foot draft barges and that difference is huge. In addition, the Ohio Valley locations are right in the heart of the wet gas areas so there is much less of a problem with transport of raw material to processing. And, those locations are much closer to major population centers for further distribution of finished product.

Personally, I think Belmont County, OH gets the first cracker because, as usual, our politicians did a p*ss poor job of making things attractive enough for business investment,
and what they did do they likley did too late.
I'm sure any barge traffic that this plant might result in isn't too much for the Kanawha River. The river already supports chemical, stone, and coal barges, so I doubt that Charleston couldn't handle the load. And the rail and highways system is more efficient here.

Another thing you have to look at is that we already have the trained work force. Our chemical background puts us at an advantage over anywhere else in terms of qualifications. The plant, which would be located in a major chemical facility, would just be an added task for what is a serious industry down here. Plus we are even building a tech training center on the site of our Tech Park, it would be a win win for anybody who decides to build a Craker here.
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Elkins, WV
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I would love to see Charleston get one and the New Martinsville or somewhere along the Northern Panhandle also get a cracker. Both regions would benefit significantly, and there is supposedly a 2nd company also interested in building a cracker besides Shell.
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