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Old 07-03-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Excerpts, and a shoutout to the success of Morgantown from the NYT!

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Just like Georgia, the last state profiled in this series, West Virginia has gone from solid blue to solid red on presidential electoral maps. But unlike Georgia, West Virginia still elects Democrats in statewide races. Both of West Virginia’s senators are Democrats, as is the state’s governor. Democrats claims large majorities in the State Senate and the West Virginia House of Delegates. And Democrats still maintain almost a 2-1 registration edge over Republicans in the state.

As easily accessible coal seams have been depleted, the so-called “coal counties” in southern West Virginia have lost population. At the same time, less coal-centric areas of the state – the Washington D.C. exurbs in the eastern panhandle and the communities around Morgantown, where West Virginia University is located – have gained population, Mr. Plein said. The coal industry has also been hurt by a boom in cheap natural gas in the Marcellus Shale. About 2,000 coal mining jobs have been shed in just the last few months.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:58 AM
 
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WV Dems are basically republicans that support local unions and food stamps. Nothing about their national political ideology regarding social programs (unless they benefit WVians) or progressive platforms scream democrat. WV has become an embarrassment to the Union and to Democrats everywhere. A once proud union and democrat state has turned its back on progressive policy and has joined the ranked of Alabama and Arkansas. Much of it has to do with the fact that they have been convinced that Obama is a Muslim, communist atheist, hell bent on destroying this great country that has helped to exploit the rest of WV since its inception.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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I'm not sure where you get the notion that political party really has anything to do with it. The people running things in both parties are determined to make sure the rich get richer, and they will do it on the backs of the middle class if they feel they need to do that. A person from an ordinary background who doesn't have major backing from the super rich has virtually no chance of being elected to a major political office, and if he/she runs, the elitists will use everything at their disposal... media, whatever to make him look like an idiot while ignoring the faults of the elitist candidates. They will be marginalized out of the race.

One thing you can be certain of... no matter who wins in November, the very rich will expand their dominance, the middle class will be further assaulted by cheap foreign labor policies, and lack of government enforcement of existing immigration laws will bring that problem increasingly to our doorsteps as our youth will have to compete for scarce jobs on the homefront and our educational and social service system becomes further inundated with people who pay little to nothing into it, but who take enormous amounts from it at the expense of middle class Amerians for generations to come.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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Right CT. There really is very little difference in the two parties. (D) or (R) outside of a few issues are one in the same.

Why have their been no CEO's prosecuted under Sarbanes/Oxley? There were clearly many who ran afoul of this law but the law is being completely ignored. Why?
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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WV Dems are basically republicans that support local unions and food stamps. Nothing about their national political ideology regarding social programs (unless they benefit WVians) or progressive platforms scream democrat. WV has become an embarrassment to the Union and to Democrats everywhere. A once proud union and democrat state has turned its back on progressive policy and has joined the ranked of Alabama and Arkansas. Much of it has to do with the fact that they have been convinced that Obama is a Muslim, communist atheist, hell bent on destroying this great country that has helped to exploit the rest of WV since its inception.
Agreed completely.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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WV Dems are basically republicans that support local unions and food stamps. Nothing about their national political ideology regarding social programs (unless they benefit WVians) or progressive platforms scream democrat. WV has become an embarrassment to the Union and to Democrats everywhere. A once proud union and democrat state has turned its back on progressive policy and has joined the ranked of Alabama and Arkansas. Much of it has to do with the fact that they have been convinced that Obama is a Muslim, communist atheist, hell bent on destroying this great country that has helped to exploit the rest of WV since its inception.

Very True.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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A person from an ordinary background who doesn't have major backing from the super rich has virtually no chance of being elected to a major political office, and if he/she runs, the elitists will use everything at their disposal... media, whatever to make him look like an idiot while ignoring the faults of the elitist candidates. They will be marginalized out of the race..
I'm pretty sure the current President (D) had even less than an ordinary background while being raised as a mixed race child by a single white mother in the 60s & 70s. The closest thing to an "ordinary" person the GOP has brought to the fight was Sarah Palin, and they made a mistake by choosing her because she was so ordinary, not in spite of it. Anytime someone criticizes the right, the right comes back and says "Well, well, there's bad apples on both sides, the two sides are very similar". That's just not true and you know it. One side fights for the rights of the masses, the other side fights to exploit those masses. One side would rather go into debt to bomb brown people on the other side of the world, while the other would prefer to use those funds to help their own people. The logical fallacy that both sides are almost exactly alike save for a few small issues is a cop out that only the right uses.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:24 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure the current President (D) had even less than an ordinary background while being raised as a mixed race child by a single white mother in the 60s & 70s. The closest thing to an "ordinary" person the GOP has brought to the fight was Sarah Palin, and they made a mistake by choosing her because she was so ordinary, not in spite of it. Anytime someone criticizes the right, the right comes back and says "Well, well, there's bad apples on both sides, the two sides are very similar". That's just not true and you know it. One side fights for the rights of the masses, the other side fights to exploit those masses. One side would rather go into debt to bomb brown people on the other side of the world, while the other would prefer to use those funds to help their own people. The logical fallacy that both sides are almost exactly alike save for a few small issues is a cop out that only the right uses.
Fighting for the masses.

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As a side point, and I know I've asked this over and over, why has there not been one single CEO prosecuted for running afoul of Sarbanes/Oxley?
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:43 AM
 
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Right CT. There really is very little difference in the two parties. (D) or (R) outside of a few issues are one in the same.

Why have their been no CEO's prosecuted under Sarbanes/Oxley? There were clearly many who ran afoul of this law but the law is being completely ignored. Why?
I have to agree on this one. I'm not an occupy wallstreet member, mainly because the movement was taken over by a bunch of kids and never had a leader, butI do agree with their original message. I think the whole government is scared of these wall street folks, apparently busting baseball players for steroids is higher on their list.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:53 AM
 
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WV Dems are basically republicans that support local unions and food stamps. Nothing about their national political ideology regarding social programs (unless they benefit WVians) or progressive platforms scream democrat. WV has become an embarrassment to the Union and to Democrats everywhere. A once proud union and democrat state has turned its back on progressive policy and has joined the ranked of Alabama and Arkansas. Much of it has to do with the fact that they have been convinced that Obama is a Muslim, communist atheist, hell bent on destroying this great country that has helped to exploit the rest of WV since its inception.
Maybe for the most part, but I would probably fit into a more "liberal" democrat. I think we have a lot of environmentalist in our state and rightfully so, we have a beautiful state and don't want it to be exploited. I think the state is socially conservative and that's why bush was kind of popular in the state, also a lot of evangelicals in the state, but we believe in carrying for our poor, even if they a small percentage does exploit the system. There are a lot of people that depends on many government programs and also government jobs that come into the state. The private sector never really brought good paying jobs to the state.

I do think the state had turned more red a evidence in the last few elections, and many are not happy with the current state elected officials.
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