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Old 03-22-2013, 08:55 PM
 
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Though for the last several weeks, Democratic hopes of retaining Sen. Jay Rockefeller's seat in 2014 have looked bleak, it seems party operatives may have finally found their unicorn in West Virginia: a wealthy, pro-coal, pro-business Democrat in the style of Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.V. Attorney Nick Preservati has spoken with the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee about running for the seat, in conversations that the committee found "encouraging," according to a source with knowledge of the discussions.
Have Democrats Found Another Manchin in West Virginia? - NationalJournal.com
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:02 PM
 
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He will have to spend a whole lot of money to make that name a household name. Heck, it might take a couple million just to teach us to pronounce it.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Elkins, WV
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I hope not... I can't stand Manchin. No backbone and I feel he's two faced, but just watch those pearly whites come out for the flash photography.

We need to find another Rockefeller, maybe one not from one of the wealthiest families in the country though...
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:48 AM
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Manchin is a Blue-Dog Democrat, a Democrat in name only. (I could say the same thing about Obama, who wants to reduce S.S. payments.)

Manchin was against eliminating the Republican filibuster in the Senate. He just as well could be a Republican. Who needs him?
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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None of them really care all that much. The only things the Dems and Republicans argue about is how to spend the middle class into oblivion, they all agree that protecting the assets of the super rich has the highest priority, in spite of all the rhetoric.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:28 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I do know that Obama (and for that matter the Democratic Party since Al gore) has been very hostile to coal mining and natural gas drilling. Given this, the shift toward the GOP in WV has not really shocked me. Plus the fact that the Democrats now passionately support illegal immigration, abortion, and most importantly gun restrictions.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:56 PM
 
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I hope not... I can't stand Manchin. No backbone and I feel he's two faced, but just watch those pearly whites come out for the flash photography.

We need to find another Rockefeller, maybe one not from one of the wealthiest families in the country though...
Although I agree with you on point 1, what has Jay done here besides represent his families energy interests?
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:11 PM
 
Location: WV/Va/Ky/Tn
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Although I agree with you on point 1, what has Jay done here besides represent his families energy interests?
I know we named a couple of industrial parks after him
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:51 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I do know that Obama (and for that matter the Democratic Party since Al gore) has been very hostile to coal mining and natural gas drilling. Given this, the shift toward the GOP in WV has not really shocked me. Plus the fact that the Democrats now passionately support illegal immigration, abortion, and most importantly gun restrictions.
Much of this is merely conjecture and speculation instead of facts.

President Obama made statements about coal fired power plants during the 2008 campaign that never resulted in any legislation; therefore, that is a perception that is not borne out by actions by the EPA.

Nobody supports illegal immigration. Some people want to imprison or deport 12,000,000 people. Some people want to give them a free ride. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle, but nobody supports illegal immigration.

In all my 60+ years, I've never heard anybody "passionately support" abortion. Some people want to impose their religious view on everybody else, and some people think it is nobody else's business what they decide to do. Tell me, please. How many times have you heard somebody suggest to a woman that she should go get herself an abortion?

Are you aware of the fact that gun restrictions have existed in this country since before the Constitution was written? There is certainly room for discussion and disagreement about HOW gun restriction should work, or WHICH restrictions are appropriate, but regulations concerning guns have always been there, in one form or another.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:55 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Although I agree with you on point 1, what has Jay done here besides represent his families energy interests?
Well, let's start with his unwavering support of coal miners' black lung coverage. I have yet to see anything to make me think his family has profited from his decades long advocacy in this area.

Somebody else can chime in with others, like health care availability in this poor state.
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