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Old 07-22-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Weirton, W. Va.
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Does anybody else think the 2020s may be the first decade in years that the northern panhandle of West Virginia grows and adds population? I see a lot of properties being snatched up in Weirton and Wheeling. I really think this is possible. It seems there is an influx of new folks to the area. More businesses seem to be moving in as well.
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Old 07-24-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Perhaps.

If you look at some of the recent data released by the Appalachian Regional Commission, the northern panhandle is in a transition phase.

https://www.arc.gov/images/appregion...stVirginia.pdf
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, Hilly South, Land of Doors
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Perhaps Wheeling. Weirton is a different story. Let's hope the architecture - what's left - is rehabbed.
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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Moundsville/Marshall County is definitely prepped for growth mode. It sits atop the world's richest natural gas deposits.
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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The Northern Panhandle will need to see a massive influx of younger people (who want to have a lot of children) moving into the area for this to happen. As of right now they, along with most of West Virginia and western Pennsylvania are dealing with the following negative demographic trends: a much higher number of deaths each year compared to births due to the aging populace, limited/ declining levels of international immigration and a negative domestic migration as people move elsewhere for jobs/ retirement, etc. Now you certainly don't need to be winning in all three of those categories to heave strong population growth as places like California boomed in the late 80s and 90s with negative domestic migration. The difference is they had a lot more births than deaths and huge numbers of people migrating from other countries. Places like Myrtle Beach / certain Florida locations now are the exact opposite- They also have a populace with many more deaths than births and low levels of migration from overseas yet huge numbers of people from NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc moving there contributing to strong population increases. The gas deposit situation in the Northern Panhandle is what it is but people have been saying that will make the area grow for over a decade and it has continued to bleed population. Properties being snatched up for reinvestment is common even in places that are still losing population like Detroit and Pittsburgh. Is it a long term trend? Time will tell but it is nice to see people buying into places like Wheeling and other Rust Belt cities. Even if it doesn't yield immediate growth, it is nice to see investment in the cities and offers hope for the future.

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Old 08-11-2019, 05:03 PM
 
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The Northern Panhandle will need to see a massive influx of younger people (who want to have a lot of children) moving into the area for this to happen- as of right now they, along with most of West Virginia and western Pennsylvania are dealing with the following negative demographic trends: a much higher number of deaths each year compared to births due to the aging demographics, limited/ declining levels of international immigration and a negative domestic migration as people move elsewhere for jobs. Now you certainly don't need to be winning in all three of those categories to heave strong population growth as places like California boomed in the late 80s and 90s with negative domestic migration. The difference is they had a lot more births than deaths and huge numbers of people migrating from other countries. Places like Myrtle Beach / certain Florida locations now are the exact opposite- They also have a populace with many more deaths than births and low levels of migration from overseas yet huge numbers of people from NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc moving there contributing to strong population increases. The gas deposit situation in the Northern Panhandle is what it is but people have been saying that will make the area grow for over a decade and it has continued to bleed population. Properties being snatched up for reinvestment is common even in places that are still losing population like Detroit and Pittsburgh. Is it a long term trend? Time will tell but it is nice to see people buying into places like Wheeling and other Rust Belt cities.
That will change quickly when that multi billion dollar cracker facility is built in Dilles Bottom. Any labor needs that can not be met with locals will quickly be filled by folks from Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, and Louisiana moving into the area to take the well paying jobs associated with that industry. Those areas have legions of experienced, well trained operatives to work in that industry. Marshall County is poised for growth, and will join Berkeley, Harrison and Monongalia as major growth centers within a few years.

https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/w...b5d20ef5f.html
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Old 08-11-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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Does anybody else think the 2020s may be the first decade in years that the northern panhandle of West Virginia grows and adds population? I see a lot of properties being snatched up in Weirton and Wheeling. I really think this is possible. It seems there is an influx of new folks to the area. More businesses seem to be moving in as well.
Oil and gas developments assure NP growth going forward. It will be located between 2 massive cracker facilities, making it a natural for plastics industry developments.
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Old 08-11-2019, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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That will change quickly when that multi billion dollar cracker facility is built in Dilles Bottom. Any labor needs that can not be met with locals will quickly be filled by folks from Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, and Louisiana moving into the area to take the well paying jobs associated with that industry. Those areas have legions of experienced, well trained operatives to work in that industry. Marshall County is poised for growth, and will join Berkeley, Harrison and Monongalia as major growth centers within a few years.

https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/w...b5d20ef5f.html
Could very well be and is exciting to know about. Thanks for sharing. I have no doubt Mon and Berkeley will continue to be at the top. Seems like Marshall may share in the wealth as well. I'm really rooting for Mon as I've personally been very pleased with the appreciation of my place I rent out in the Suncrest area. It's been good to me- too bad I can't just use it for a football weekend crash pad.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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From the article it is mentioned that the state has added 11k jobs, with almost all coming from within the energy sectors of coal, natural gas, and pipeline construction. It doesn't mention the time frame for when those jobs were added or when they ended. For example, how many of those jobs were temporary from pipeline construction? Here in the metro valley section of the state, the majority of the pipeline jobs have ended with construction finished.

Also, what will be the pay for the jobs with the cracker facility? Will it be enough to attract workers from other states?
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:47 PM
 
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From the article it is mentioned that the state has added 11k jobs, with almost all coming from within the energy sectors of coal, natural gas, and pipeline construction. It doesn't mention the time frame for when those jobs were added or when they ended. For example, how many of those jobs were temporary from pipeline construction? Here in the metro valley section of the state, the majority of the pipeline jobs have ended with construction finished.

Also, what will be the pay for the jobs with the cracker facility? Will it be enough to attract workers from other states?
Not all of the jobs will be high paying ones, but there is enough local talent to fill the lower wage jobs. Remember, the NP is essentially in the Pittsburgh orbit. Labor moves back and forth there. Anyone in that region who loses work in pipeline construction, will be snapped up in cracker facility and spin off industry construction. There is enough "wet gas" in that region to assure it of prosperity for a century.

The article specifically addresses what happens within the confines of West Virginia, and in the panhandles that is a very thin area. The workforce is actually spread out over 3 states. My ex wife, for example, lives in Marshall County near Wheeling but commutes to work every day in Pittsburgh. Many others do the same.
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