Conservative Wv Democrats (Charleston, Washington, War: living, auction, moving)

[David Kennedy]

With the Repubican Party taking the High Moral Ground in selecting Alaska's Governor Sara Palin as VP Nominee...the election campaign will center on conservative family and moral choices and values...all dear to the hearts of West Virginian's everywhere...

Would anybody be interested in forming a 'West Virginia Democrat's for McCain Caucus?

Speaking in their local areas on the common conservative values that most West Virginian's share.

The percentages show McCain with a 71% favorable rating...this was before the VP selection....those numbers will only go higher...

If anyone is interested in supporting this effort please e-mail me at dkennedywv@lycos.com

[snorpus]

I think the election just got a whole lot more interesting...

There's a lot to like about Palin's selection. Her youth matches Obama's. Being female, now the Hilary vote won't automatically go to the Democratic candidate. Her husband is a blue-collar oil field worker who races snowmobiles.

Her conservatism solidifies McCain's right. Her courage to continue her pregnancy when informed at 13 weeks that her latest child has Down's Syndrome will be admired. She's definitely not part of the political machine, so McCain can distance himself from "politics as usual" when need be.

Her lack of foreign policy experience will be criticized, but then Obama doesn't have much either, and as Tip O'Neil once said, "All politics are local."

And points go to McCain's advisors for making the announcement the day after the Dem convention ended, thus limiting the "bounce" that candidates always get from their conventions.

[r601020]

Originally Posted by snorpus

. .now the Hilary vote won't automatically go to the Democratic candidate.

My initial impression too. Protest votes.

I've always been registered Democrat, but I'm disgusted with them, and changed my status to Independent after moving here and seeing the shenanigans of the Democratic delegates for Obama. Straw that broke the camel's back, Nancy Pelosi, "impeachment is off the table". Lots of disenfranchised people out there. I'm one of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...ch_Dick_Cheney


Typical political conversation between neighbors :
"Who are you voting for?"
"Uh . . got any suggestions?"
"Nope. I was hoping you had somebody to pick."
"None of the above?"

I can't find it, but if any of you sleuths can, I'd greatly appreciate it (buy ya a coffee). Prior to the campaigns (2006?), Joe Biden was on television, and with regards to deporting illegal aliens, he said "Anybody that thinks we're going to deport all the illegal aliens needs to get over it!" Strong emphasis on "get over it". I need that link (video).

[GottaHerdOn]

Oh my... NO! ha ha While I may get aggravated to the point of insanity with Democrats, I could never agree with the conservative or Republican agendas. Conservative "family" and "moral" values often bring a chuckle to my face and a head shake. Just another way of saying "pro life" and my favorite "protecting the sanctity of marriage."

[Threerun]

Originally Posted by r601020

I've always been registered Democrat, but I'm disgusted with them, and changed my status to Independent after moving here and seeing the shenanigans of the Democratic delegates for Obama.

Funny- a lot of middle of the road conservatives feel that way too. The Republican party stand for nil anymore. Fiscal conservatism? Ha. Moral high ground? Ha.

Ironically we may have Republicans voting for Obama and Democrats voting for McCain. Who would've thunk it..

[snorpus]

GHO,

I don't think McCain ever thought he had a chance for your vote. But the selection of Palin does help with conservative, pro-Life Democrats. They voted for Hilary in the primary, and would likely (albeit reluctantly) have voted for Obama if McCain had chosen a "conventional" running mate.

Now they have an alternative. I still say it's about the best choice McCain could have made (with the possible exception of Colin Powell).

[Sharedspirit]

Originally Posted by snorpus

GHO,

I don't think McCain ever thought he had a chance for your vote. But the selection of Palin does help with conservative, pro-Life Democrats. They voted for Hilary in the primary, and would likely (albeit reluctantly) have voted for Obama if McCain had chosen a "conventional" running mate.

Now they have an alternative. I still say it's about the best choice McCain could have made (with the possible exception of Colin Powell).

Colin Powell would have made a lot of people rethink their positions also. I got to meet him in Charleston a few years back. I was impressed!

[David Kennedy]

I ran as a 'pro life candidate in 1988 and 1990...couldn't get the endorsement of the pro life kooks because I thought if the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest..or the life of the mother was in jeopardy then abortion could be considered...
The 'so called Pro -lifers want no abortion period...that means that a birth by rape or incest is carried on in the mind and physical being of the victim for the remainder of their life...that a women who dies in forced pregnancy childbirth does not have the right to live...
I told them to vote for the pro-abortion candidates who touted 'Pro-life and they did...one of them is governor now....he is Por-life but steps out of the way to make abortion possible...gets the endorsement everytime...

NRA is another...question # 2 regarded the owning of machine guns...
I said I thought they should be registered...they did not...

They could not endorse me because of that one issue...I told them to go to hell when they called...I rescinded my membership and asked my friends to do so...

Politics is a strange creature...we are seeing a crazy old man craft an election...all his chips are bet on a wonderful honest woman who lives far from Washington...on the other hand, the Demos are crafting an election with Washington insiders...

my bet is on this...because of the low rating of the congress and the wacko's involved...that this stranger will win hearts and take votes and when the smoke clears...the Bush Presidency will continue for 8 more years...if she is popular and decides to get involved and clean up some of the muck...we could see her for a total of 16 years...Let me say this in conclusion...

Women make good leaders, Golda Meir...and Maggie Thatcher were good leaders...in a Parliment,when you are doing poorly the leader groups are cast out by 'No Confidence votes....both had long successful terms and managed well...the men in our government have done very poorly...perhaps its time to really make a change and give a good woman a try...after all, what do we really have to lose?
It's a lost cause already...

[r601020]

Originally Posted by David Kennedy

my bet is on this...

My bets are still on the W, that he does not leave office.

I'm not a gambling person besides an occasional lottery ticket, so a cup of coffee is all I can afford on this.

War with Iran could keep the W in office regardless of who initiates it. Gas jumps to $7+ overnight, triggers an economic collapse, the W executes Directive 51 -- takes control of all branches of government and we become a facist country overnight. Other possibilities include a domestic terrorism incident, category 5 hurricane, etc., something between then and now the W can declare a "national emergency".

Then anyone who challenges his power is deemed a "threat to the President', and therefore in violation of "The Patriot Act". See ya . . wouldn't wanta beya. I'm a tyrant, takes one to know one, and the W is a tyrant (or the folks behind his throne are). So my brain would be sitting at a chessboard about now figuring out how to postpone elections, indefintely. The 2nd rule of power is to not relinquish power.

Be happy to lose that bet though. I like being wrong.

That aside, I apologize for having some shallowness, but Michelle Obama is one scary woman to look at. She is a radiator of hate, or maybe one of those aliens from "They Live" movie. If the Obama wants to win, he needs to put that woman in a Burca.

[harborlady]

snorp & DK he did have a chance for my vote because I liked him years ago prior to Bush when he had a spine, but DK's metaphor of Dr Strangelove many threads ago... stands. He lost support of veterans groups for a reason. He's been brainwashed to toe the line for Bush agenda and there's no way you can spin it otherwise. Those are his stripes now, and absolutely not is my reply. Fighting another sovereign nations civil war is wrong. Duping congress with lies from the highest office of our nation is high treason. Staying the course is a neon punctuation of stupidity. No media spin, stage make up, coaching, 'friends of' smears, or out of context statements- McCain's plan is to stay the course by his own admission.

We've sustained serious fiscal damage from 'stay the course' allowing America to be put on the international auction block. We're now the worlds largest debtor and russia/china have cheshire smiles being on the other end of that stick. It's only money? It's the health of our nation is what it is.

Obama? I truly wish he were Colin Powell. I don't think he's shown us everything he's got yet, but time will tell. DK and yourself are seemingly saying absolutely not to him. What made you two make that decision?
DK I hope you'll run again someday. You're needed, even if it means you'll only accomplish raising the bar for other candidates. Insist they be worthy. Never give up please.

R601 elitist punks are in both parties. Lockstep young republicans driving daddy's lexus telling people how to make a living when they've never had a job ring a bell? Shrug them off. Brat's from any party aren't the real messages from a candidate or a party. My vote for impeachment stands no matter what pelosi says. Maybe her name should be included in the list. Pelosi dems vested in status quo won't clean up washington? How about Obama dems? I honestly don't know but for me it's the strongest selling point he's got. Greenhorn bothers me. The politics IN his church bother me tremendously.

Three it would seem the only way to break this unremitting divided nation is to get parties to clearly define and have the rest splinter off. Still waiting for my 'centrist party' to materialize on a ballot. I was an independent before religious right played games. Strongest 3rd party is libertarian Bob Barr. Comical life history synopsis= "War on.. aww forget it because it applies to me now".

GHO Extreme social liberals have to wake up and read Swedish history renouncing a welfare state within their socialist system. They seriously hurt the dem party being stuck on stupid. I dislike them as much as religious right trying to swap out democracy for a bible. They need to be cut loose and get their own party because both have been the tyranny of the minority agenda at the expense of universal issues far too long.