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Old 12-24-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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Funny you said that, I was watching the news last night and thinking about how much of the crime in the Huntington/Chas (esp Huntington) area is from people coming into the state and doing the crime. It's like a game of tag to them - they run back across the Ohio (whatever) border and think they become invisible.

Makes me mad cuz it increases our crime rate. Well, all crime makes me mad and we have our fair share of criminals. But it REALLY aggrevates me to see our stats increase cuz of these lowlifes coming in to WV to commit a crime. Just another good reason to secede - then we could put up a border patrol.
What I've read indicates a strong Detriot connection there, for some reason. You have to wonder how that got started. Maybe the answer is to require a special permit for people from Michigan to enter the State.
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Old 12-24-2008, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Martinsburg, WV
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It's easy to see where the 6,100 new people went, and since those areas grew by far more than that, unfortunately there are still parts of the State experiencing drastic population loss.

Berkeley County has added 23,829 residents from 2000-2007 (From 75,905 to 99,734) and Jefferson County has added 8,642 new residents during that time. There must be major loss of population in other counties for a gain of only 6,100.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:11 AM
 
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If you glance at the Census page and go by county, you'll see the bleed off.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Western Pennsylvania
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That's corroborated by the fact that all the growth was in various ethnic categories: black, hispanic, asian, even Native Americans grew by about 100, I think. Most of that would be part of the migration out of the DC-MD-NoVA into the Eastern Panhandle.

Which, had Lord Fairfax turned left instead of right, would have been part of Maryland all along.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:38 AM
 
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All the growth was in ethnic categories?

I'm not getting that one... Minorities are a small fraction of the influx, at least in the EP.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Western Pennsylvania
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Follow this link, find the table row for WV, and click on details:

White: -0.4% (-7,102)
Black +10.7% (+6,189)
Asian +27.4% (+2,667)
Pacific Islands (inc. Hawaii) +23.3% (+100)
Native American, Alaskan +12.0% (+444)
Multi-Racial +19.5% (+2,687)
Hispanic +55.7% (+6,925)
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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Population is decreasing in America if not for immigrants.
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While almost all of the developed world, and many other nations, have seen plummeting fertility rates over the last twenty years, the United States' rates have remained stable and even slightly increased. This is partly due to the high fertility rate among communities such as Hispanics, but it is also because the fertility rate among non-Hispanic whites in the US, after falling to about 1.6 in the 1970s and early 1980s, had increased and is now around 1.9, or slightly below replacement level, rather than collapsing to the 1.3-1.5 level common in Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertilitys
This doesn't include the math of mortality rates that reduce 1.9 statistics. Sick kids, car accidents, off to war. Can't find the other link just now but basically 51% is less than break even & 19% is childless.

U.S. Foreign-Born Population Hits 33 Million

Migration overall in america (immigrant and native born aren't separated)
Americans Continue Migration to South and West
This article alludes to the notion that people moved due to taxes, which this article actually disproved. The states that had the largest growth doesn't correspond with zero personal income tax. They moved for economic reasons (wage increase can be had if cost of living is decreased).

Unless WV becomes an economic dynamo I think Alice's job is made much easier. Artificial booms are ultimately very destructive. People migrating for dubious reasons do not yield economic strength, but the inverse, economic burden. Chas and Huntington areas have a mixed bag of arrivals-- some relocate for legit reasons, others are vagrant in nature looking for dubious opportunity.

Sure would be nice to offset the cost of LE/legal system by billing the home state of these vagrants. Some states have been in local headlines once too often. Never happen but it would keep the undue cost of nonsense to a dull roar. Glad they're getting proactive.
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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I saw this too. Here are the numbers:

"Census estimates show that the Mountain State now has 6,100 more residents than it did in April 2000. As of July 1 this year, West Virginia's estimated population was 1,814,468. In April 2000, it was 1,808,345. Most of that growth occurred between July 1, 2007, and July 1 of this year, when the state added an estimated 4,600 residents, an increase of 0.3 percent."

So most of this growth has been in the last year. I know here in Huntington, people just moved in from FL a couple of houses down and then one block down a family from SC just moved in. One house sold in 2 weeks and the other in 3weeks. I've also talked to several other people who have moved from out of state within the last year too. Hopefully we can keep this up and see some good, sustained growth for the state as a whole. Here's a link.

Tim

W. Virginia growth rate climbs in past year - The Herald Dispatch
So long as cost of living stays under control. Remember that salaries are a cut in this state for most in US work force. Offset by lower cost of living it's not dramatic. Use this as a selling point it's likely to attract the wrong crowd; fickle to whims of economic winds. Careful. Alice is very wise.
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Old 12-24-2008, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Follow this link, find the table row for WV, and click on details:

White: -0.4% (-7,102)
Black +10.7% (+6,189)
Asian +27.4% (+2,667)
Pacific Islands (inc. Hawaii) +23.3% (+100)
Native American, Alaskan +12.0% (+444)
Multi-Racial +19.5% (+2,687)
Hispanic +55.7% (+6,925)
Then I'm not sure where the 10.7% increase in the African American population is occuring, but the US Census indicated no statistical change from 2000 estimates to the 2005-2007 estimates
West Virginia - Fact Sheet - American FactFinder=

There were marginal increases in Berkeley county between the 2000 census, 4.7% of the residents were in that demograph and in 2007, 5.8% fell into that demograph. Jefferson county was 6.1% and 6.9% respectively.

Pacific Islanders in Berkeley county went from 0.00% in 2000 to .01% in the 2005-2007 data set. You can toggle back and forth between data from the 2000 census to the 2005-2007 data collection sets.

Berkeley County, West Virginia - Fact Sheet - American FactFinder=
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Western Pennsylvania
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The data in my earlier post was to mid 2007. According to the Plain Dealer, the source was the U.S. Census Bureau.

A different table at the same site shows the estimated WV population to be 1,814,468, as of mid 2008. That is an increase of 7,418 (+0.4%) from the 2000 Census. The 2008 data has not been broken out by demograph yet.
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