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Old 10-15-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Katonah
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1. I have to say I took for granted that "cultural feel" implied a personal preference and gut reaction, not something that I would pretend was a statement of fact. But point taken, I should have clarified that that was just my own feeling.

2. Speaking of broad generalizations!


My comments about Katonah are actually not a generalization, they are fact. There are no large chain stores or restaurants and there are lots of families there.

Broad generalizations are exactly your comments. You had an experience and you applied the feeling of that experience to the "whole" of Katonah. It's an opinion, there's nothing wrong or right with it, just your opinion. That's why I brought it up, you called someone else for stating his opinion because it happened to be negative to Yorktown. So I brought up the fact that you made a generalization about Katonah as well.

I'm happy Yorktown fits for you and even though we may not all agree on each other's comments about schools or cultural vibes or why people live in one town or another, it's entertaining to read.

You are defensive of your town and that's good. You should enjoy where you live.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Yorktown Heights NY
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My comments about Katonah are actually not a generalization, they are fact. There are no large chain stores or restaurants and there are lots of families there.

Broad generalizations are exactly your comments. You had an experience and you applied the feeling of that experience to the "whole" of Katonah. It's an opinion, there's nothing wrong or right with it, just your opinion. That's why I brought it up, you called someone else for stating his opinion because it happened to be negative to Yorktown. So I brought up the fact that you made a generalization about Katonah as well.

I'm happy Yorktown fits for you and even though we may not all agree on each other's comments about schools or cultural vibes or why people live in one town or another, it's entertaining to read.

You are defensive of your town and that's good. You should enjoy where you live.
I'm not at all defensive about my town. I'm deeply annoyed and offended by the stupid generalizations people make about lots of towns on this forum based on nothing more than their personal bias. Personal bias is fine (as in the case of my sense of the cultural feel of Katonah), but they should not be put forth as fact. In the case of Yorktown Heights, one poster is stating things as fact that do not at all relate to all of YH, an area comprised of 6 distinct hamlets. They are free to state their opinion, but not to pretend it is fact.

I was not referring to your statement about Katonah's lack of large chain stores or families as broad generalizations, but rather to your statements about what people will pay for. That is true in terms of median prices for the towns, no doubt, but the price per square foot people will pay is higher in parts of YH than it is in parts of Katonah or Bedford.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Katonah
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I'm not at all defensive about my town. I'm deeply annoyed and offended by the stupid generalizations people make about lots of towns on this forum based on nothing more than their personal bias. Personal bias is fine (as in the case of my sense of the cultural feel of Katonah), but they should not be put forth as fact. In the case of Yorktown Heights, one poster is stating things as fact that do not at all relate to all of YH, an area comprised of 6 distinct hamlets. They are free to state their opinion, but not to pretend it is fact.

I was not referring to your statement about Katonah's lack of large chain stores or families as broad generalizations, but rather to your statements about what people will pay for. That is true in terms of median prices for the towns, no doubt, but the price per square foot people will pay is higher in parts of YH than it is in parts of Katonah or Bedford.


That's my whole point. You think it's fine to state your personal bias of Katonah but if someone feels negatively about YH? Look out! You and your educational pedagogy clearly know more than anyone else does and if we don't love YH and it's perfect schools and perfect creative people with no blue collar workers and perfect cultural vibes, then we are just wrong and you have all the facts to back it up.

Ok fine, the price per square foot you pay in parts of YH is higher than people pay in parts of Katonah or Bedford. And the price per square foot people pay in Katonah or Bedford is higher than what people pay in "parts" of NYC. I'm not sure how that makes you feel better, but I guess that's a valid comparison.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Armonk NY
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I was going to respond to your previous post and explain why I assume the OP wouldn't pay attention to your comments, but then you went ahead and wrote the above which made the point for me. So thanks.
I understand your defensivness about Yorktown...

Katonah is great, Yorktown has nothing to offer...you talk in circles with no substance. Very few people who can afford to live elsewhere would choose Yorktown. And thats a FACT -- like it or not.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Yorktown Heights NY
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See, I don't mind John70s post above at all. He's clearly just spouting his personal bias with no basis, and that's fine. He's free to spout all he wants. What I took offense at was when he pretended his bias was fact and ignored actual facts. I on the other stated a bias and made it clear that that's what it was. I don't pretend my opinion is fact. Fact is fact, bias is bias.

I'm sorry you are bothered by my expertise in educational pedagogy. Good thing I didn't mention the PhD!

As for stating that YH is perfect, never happened. I've written many a post about its weaknesses. But I'll certainly defend it against idiotic attacks.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Armonk NY
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See, I don't mind John70s post above at all. He's clearly just spouting his personal bias with no basis, and that's fine. He's free to spout all he wants. What I took offense at was when he pretended his bias was fact and ignored actual facts. I on the other stated a bias and made it clear that that's what it was. I don't pretend my opinion is fact. Fact is fact, bias is bias.

I'm sorry you are bothered by my expertise in educational pedagogy. Good thing I didn't mention the PhD!

As for stating that YH is perfect, never happened. I've written many a post about its weaknesses. But I'll certainly defend it against idiotic attacks.
The only idiot here is you. I am giving my opinion, which escapes you. You would think I was comparing Yorktown to Newburgh with your pointless babble.. I have no "personal bias" against Yorktown, that is ludicrious. I simply voiced my opinion that, despite your delusions, its not one of the elite areas of Westchester. Prove me wrong.

Well said HGEB - dma 1250 is such a Hypocrite..

the PhD in educational pedagogy explains everything - useless. Probably why you have the time to spend your life typing away on this forum.

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Old 10-15-2013, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Armonk NY
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I like how he says someone else is making broad generalizations and then he said he didn't like Katonah because he didn't like the "cultural feel" of the area. That's not broad at all.

Did the lack of chain restaurants and stores give you a bad vibe? Too many families walking around for your liking?

There is a reason people pay more to live in Katonah, Chappaqua, Bedford, etc. over Yorktown. But it's great, we all have our opinions and are free to live wherever we want and wherever makes sense for ourselves and families.
Again, very well said HGEB!!
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Yorktown Heights NY
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Ok fine, the price per square foot you pay in parts of YH is higher than people pay in parts of Katonah or Bedford. And the price per square foot people pay in Katonah or Bedford is higher than what people pay in "parts" of NYC. I'm not sure how that makes you feel better, but I guess that's a valid comparison.
PS That was big of you. I appreciate it.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:01 PM
 
Location: East Millcreek
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Awesome catfight! City-Data at it's best. How long can you guys draw it out?
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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We all know Carmel is the best town to live
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