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hmm... why doesn't westchester just give the money back to the fed government so it doesn't have to go through all this? The article fails to mention the part about westchester taking money to get itself in this mess. The article says the fed government is overreaching, but if anyone of us paid millions for something and didn't get it, we would be "overreaching" as well ..
We argued this point ad nauseum very recently. Nothing new has happened and there's no reason to rehash the exact same arguments about this. The NY Post is a conservative rag and isn't adding anything new to the discussion.
hmm... why doesn't westchester just give the money back to the fed government so it doesn't have to go through all this? The article fails to mention the part about westchester taking money to get itself in this mess. The article says the fed government is overreaching, but if anyone of us paid millions for something and didn't get it, we would be "overreaching" as well ..
It is no longer about the money; Obama's HUD is seeking to make some examples that will get the rest to fall into line. They intend to do this before Westchester and a few other areas caught in their crosshairs can wait out the clock until 2016.
Just as it is no longer about housing, if it ever was.
Democrats/liberals and progressives were caught unawares when whites basically packed up and moved to the suburbs to escape the forced racial integration that grew out of the Civil Rights actions of the 1960's. Thing is when they left whites often took their wealth, assets, and so forth with them. Thus almost everything in the burbs is better than most urban areas. Housing, public schools, healthcare, hospitals, libraries, etc.. While restrictive convents were struck down there are still plenty of ways to keep *certain* people out, and the Obama administration says Westchester employs many of them.
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The OP doesn't appear to have any contact with Westchester beyond this group (OP, do correct me if I'm wrong). His/her other C-D postings are mostly on other social/political/business abuses and movies. So, we can take his very stale and dated 'white flight' analysis, along with the alleged Obama connection and even more preposterous link to 2016 election, for the politically motivated ideology that it is.
I'm no longer responding to the substance of such posts here, it just feeds to trolls.
We argued this point ad nauseum very recently. Nothing new has happened and there's no reason to rehash the exact same arguments about this. The NY Post is a conservative rag and isn't adding anything new to the discussion.
That observation is way too kind.
The NY Post is a Rupert Murdoch tabloid rag for mental midgets, equivalent to The Sun in the U.K. It serves best when cut into long strips which are glued end-to-end, and then wound on a roller and placed within reach of your toilet.
As for the Westchester situation, you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't use their money.
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The OP doesn't appear to have any contact with Westchester beyond this group (OP, do correct me if I'm wrong). His/her other C-D postings are mostly on other social/political/business abuses and movies. So, we can take his very stale and dated 'white flight' analysis, along with the alleged Obama connection and even more preposterous link to 2016 election, for the politically motivated ideology that it is.
I'm no longer responding to the substance of such posts here, it just feeds to trolls.
I'm with klettermann - this is just a political troll post trying to stir the pot. We debated this forever and I'm not engaging in more debate on the same topic.
Just because facts make one uncomfortable, doesn't make them less true. With credit to the original author. Copy/pasted:
The Fight To Bring "Fair Housing" To Westchester Turns Humorous
July 30, 2015/ Francis Menton
Of all federal agencies, probably the most destructive dollar for dollar is the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Its business is creating and perpetuating poverty traps. The idea is to take people currently poor and offer them a deal with the devil whereby they can have an in-kind gift of a subsidized apartment for life, the highly-illiquid value of which does not count in income, in return for accepting a set of incentives that makes it almost impossible for them to rise up the income ladder. And thus we have the HUD-supported New York City Housing Authority, supposedly started as a means for the poor to begin to escape poverty, eighty years later reporting a poverty rate of residents of 51% and a turnover rate of 3%. Motto: "We warehouse poor people for life!"
OK, you're an HUD bureaucrat and you want more funding to grow your agency. How to deflect attention from this obvious disaster and try to claim the moral high ground? Easy! Here's the official narrative: the poor are kept poor not by your own programs that intentionally trap them in poverty, but rather by evil discriminating towns in rich areas that have excluded the poor. If only the poor could live in someplace fancy like, say, some upscale New York suburbs, they'd quickly be on the road to success!
And thus we have HUD, with the aid of Southern District of New York prosecutor Preet Bharara, currently turning its sights on Westchester County -- the mostly upscale area immediately North of New York City -- with accusations that it is dragging its feet in building some new subsidized units that somehow this time are going to succeed in helping the poor escape poverty. Howard Husock of the Manhattan Institute has a report today on the National Review site. It seems that Westchester County agreed with HUD to build some subsidized housing, but it's not getting built fast enough to satisfy the bureaucrats, so they are threatening fines and sanctions:
The Justice Department (specifically, the office of the nation's currently most prominent U.S. attorney, Preet Bharara of New York's Southern District) last week threatened to fine the county $60,000 a month and to force it to put more than $1 million in escrow against potential future fines. It's all the result of a lawsuit filed in 2006 by a New York City-based nonprofit called the Anti-Discrimination Center. . . . To resolve the suit, Westchester pledged to use $50 million of its own funds, along with HUD money it receives, to build some 750 units of new subsidized housing . . . .
Now it's not like Westchester is some lily-white hotbed of racial exclusion. According to Husock's article, in a county of about a million residents, Westchester has some 131,000 African Americans and 144,000 Hispanics, both figures rather closely in line with the percentages of those groups in the overall U.S. population. And, Husock points out, some of those members of minority groups reside in "even the wealthiest enclaves." But not enough to satisfy HUD!
So we come to the best part: a particular project in a particular wealthy enclave has become the focus of the prosecutor's ire. That project is in a town with a median family income of $180,000. Yes, it's none other than Chappaqua, home to Bill and Hillary Clinton. (For that matter, Chappaqua is also part of the Town of New Castle, in which also lives New York Governor and former HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo.) It seems like Chappaqua has actually agreed to have the units built, but the project is stalled over issues of zoning variances and exactly where the projects will be located.
So a few days ago, County Executive Rob Astorino took the occasion to hold a brief news conference outside the Clinton's mansion. Madame Hillary was actually home, so Astorino asked the nice Secret Service lady if he could go in to see the occupant, but of course he was refused. Astorino posed a series of questions for HIllary, the key one of which was "Does she think that her town is discriminatory?" No answer was forthcoming, but of course that's far from the only question that Hillary has not been answering lately.
Meanwhile, might somebody point out that Manhattan is the wealthiest county in the country by per capita income, and also right there next to all those rich people it has the highest concentration of subsidized housing, and yet somehow none of those poor people ever get out of poverty? If the theory that merely living next to rich people ended poverty were right, New York City would not have a poverty rate 5 plus points above the national average. The fact is that these subsidized housing projects intentionally perpetuate poverty, and this one in Chappaqua, if and when it gets built, will be no different.
Just because facts make one uncomfortable, doesn't make them less true. With credit to the original author. Copy/pasted:
The Fight To Bring "Fair Housing" To Westchester Turns Humorous
The object is to condemn them to a life of poverty and despair and to become beholden to the Democratic Party. This is nothing more than an attempt to punish those evil rich people by bringing their property values down.
While Andrew Spano was county executive he was in favor of this policy. He saw fit for the county to buy property next to his in Yorktown Heights so it would not be in his backyard. That's what these people are all about. I doubt they'll be building them in Hillary's backyard either. When people lift themselves out of poverty they no longer need the false hopes and promises of the Democratic Party and their politicians. Policies that the rest of us have to pay for one way or the other.
Great post by the way! Now let all derogatory name calling and false accusations begin. That's all they've got as the facts are irrefutable. They really think we are stupid. Let them think that.
I'm just glad I'm out of that hell hole. I just feel bad for all of my family and friends that we left behind. They at least for the time being are stuck there. I'm just wondering how difficult it will be to sell their homes when it's time for them to get out.
They really think we are stupid. Let them think that.
Will do.
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