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Old 08-16-2015, 04:59 AM
 
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While both sides of the spectrum can make moral arguments for or against social engineering in Yonkers, I'm not sure one can say at this point that the exercise was a success in the tangible sense, or how comparing it to Newark helps make the case. Now they are trying to apply the same exercise to other towns. Yonkers today has one of the lowest household per capita incomes in Westchester and is facing financial difficulties:

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By MICHAEL KIMMELMAN
August 12, 2015
(website) http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/ar...of-cities.html
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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Granted, I have not lived in the area for a long time, so I don't know what Yonkers was like before, but judging by what I saw while living in Yonkers, having a child in the school system, and dealing with local authorities...I can't imagine the desegregation could be called a success.
Instead of forcing the issues correlated with public housing into better-run towns, wouldn't it make more sense to focus energies on improving the already-existing public housing areas? Improve services, schools, crime rates, etc. in places like Yonkers; it just makes sense.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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The Yonkers matter back then is a prime example of where one gets beat; everyone, including the loser, knows its over, but the loser still wants to fight!

One of the great difficulties of leadership is convincing the people you lead that all avenues of fight have been exhausted, and to comply by proposing a plan that has as little of a bad impact as possible on the people you lead! But it's hard to lead when the people you lead want little or no compromise, even though some form of what you don't want will have to be accepted. Both Wacisko, and even Spillone, learned those points the hard way. And so did the people of Yonkers.

I remember watching the interviews back then. The same 'issues' of 'economic, not race' brought up on the miniseries came from the interviewees. I remember watching one interview at that time where someone was asked if they would accept any African-Americans in their neighborhood. The answer: Patrick Ewing and Eddie Murphy! I laughed so damn hard......!
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Instead of forcing the issues correlated with public housing into better-run towns, wouldn't it make more sense to focus energies on improving the already-existing public housing areas? Improve services, schools, crime rates, etc. in places like Yonkers; it just makes sense.
Translation: Improve public housing, as long as it stays on the other side of town!
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