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Old 02-03-2018, 04:22 PM
 
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It's amazing how some people make assumptions about people they don't even know.

When you take into consideration 30 years of making mortgage payments, paying property taxes and home maintenance. Not too many people make loads of money when they sell their home. Especially where we lived in Peekskill where it took us about three years to sell ours. People just did not want to put their children in Peekskill City Schools. Our neighborhood like many in Peekskill wasn't the greatest either. But it was the only place we could afford to own a home that was convenient to our jobs. Of which we both had to work in order to live in Westchester. It wasn't like "Leave it to Beaver". Living in New York State did not make us rich, I can assure you of that. The only real benefit of owning a home is that at least you'll have something tangible after it's paid off. By the time we paid our house off we couldn't afford the property taxes, health insurance and the astronomical costs of living in New York. Especially since we lost our jobs in manufacturing and had to start all over from scratch when we were in our mid 40's. Try doing that without a college education and skills that have now become obsolete.

Starting our own home based business and having our home paid off is what really allowed us to get the hell out of New York. It wasn't the selling of our home that allowed us to move elsewhere. It wasn't like: Whoopee! Now we're millionaire's! We can live off of all our new found wealth from the sale of our home and live happily ever after. We still had to buy another home and pay all of the costs to move. We barely broke even. However we did get a much nicer home in a much nicer neighborhood that's for sure. Oh yeah, we still have to work. But at least we are able to save and use about $18,000 a year as we see fit instead of going into that giant cesspool of corruption which is New York's state and local governments.
I get it, I had to work my tail off to get my home in NY, I'm still paying the mortgage, taxes, etc, but the home appreciation is through the roof, I guess it's like paying a premium to live near NYC and getting high property values. A realtor said my house would sell in a week, and he had buyer's waiting, even at the lofty price. I lived in Florida for ten years, spent many months in San Diego, but those areas can't compare to the conveniences in Westchester County...best highway system in the nation, low crime, several convenient hospitals, traffic not terrible most of the time, great weather except for winter, and close proximity to NYC. I enjoyed my time in CA and FL for the most part, but I always felt something was missing, like those areas were too rural/country and I couldn't easily get everything I wanted. I always felt I really didn't belong in those other states because New York is my home. I didn't realize how good I had it until I left NY for awhile. I'm glad you got out of NY like you wanted, and are happy in your new state.
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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I get it, I had to work my tail off to get my home in NY, I'm still paying the mortgage, taxes, etc, but the home appreciation is through the roof, I guess it's like paying a premium to live near NYC and getting high property values. A realtor said my house would sell in a week, and he had buyer's waiting, even at the lofty price. I lived in Florida for ten years, spent many months in San Diego, but those areas can't compare to the conveniences in Westchester County...best highway system in the nation, low crime, several convenient hospitals, traffic not terrible most of the time, great weather except for winter, and close proximity to NYC. I enjoyed my time in CA and FL for the most part, but I always felt something was missing, like those areas were too rural/country and I couldn't easily get everything I wanted. I always felt I really didn't belong in those other states because New York is my home. I didn't realize how good I had it until I left NY for awhile. I'm glad you got out of NY like you wanted, and are happy in your new state.
I did some calculations on what I paid for my Florida and NY homes 30 years ago and the market price now, and I deducted 30 yrs. of property taxes (rough estimates) from both homes, and the "net profit" was almost the same amount on both homes even though the NY home appreciated 200% more than the Fla. home. I didn't deduct other expenses like heating oil, etc. I never would have occurred to me to figure it out before reading these posts.

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Old 02-05-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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I get it, I had to work my tail off to get my home in NY, I'm still paying the mortgage, taxes, etc, but the home appreciation is through the roof, I guess it's like paying a premium to live near NYC and getting high property values. A realtor said my house would sell in a week, and he had buyer's waiting, even at the lofty price. I lived in Florida for ten years, spent many months in San Diego, but those areas can't compare to the conveniences in Westchester County...best highway system in the nation, low crime, several convenient hospitals, traffic not terrible most of the time, great weather except for winter, and close proximity to NYC. I enjoyed my time in CA and FL for the most part, but I always felt something was missing, like those areas were too rural/country and I couldn't easily get everything I wanted. I always felt I really didn't belong in those other states because New York is my home. I didn't realize how good I had it until I left NY for awhile. I'm glad you got out of NY like you wanted, and are happy in your new state.
I agree with you there. But that all depends on which community you live in as property values vary based on that. If our home was located in Irvington where we grew up, it would have been worth a fortune, at least $800,000 just for the property alone regardless of the homes condition. But because it was located in Peekskill all we got was $285,000. Our home in Arizona was $265,000 and our moving costs came in at around $18,000. One tractor trailer for the household items and another for 4 vehicles. Which included renting and driving a box truck across country carrying items we'd need right away. We profited a whopping $2,000.

The house we have now in Arizona is twice the size of the one we had in Peekskill and in a neighborhood comparable to one in Briarcliff Manor. Our house has gained about $100,000 in value over the 8 years we have lived here. Just recently two comparable homes sold in our neighborhood in less than two months. We have all the same conveniences and services that New Yorker's love to brag about in order to justify their outrageous taxes and costs of living. The highways out here are just as good if not better than they were out there. Granted winter plays a significant role in road conditions. Traffic is nothing when compared to the New York metro area. We are in the Goldilocks zone as far as the weather is concerned. Not too hot, not too cold.

Living in a semi rural area the jobs out here are not that great and limited to tourism, hospitality, recreation and retail. You'll have to go to Phoenix or Tucson for most other types of employment. But the same can be said for semi rural and rural area's nationwide. Being self employed that was never an issue for us.

Arizona may not be for everyone just as New York certainly isn't. For us leaving was for political, economical, and recreational reasons including a love for and a lifelong desire to live in the great American Southwest. When the opportunity came (self employment) we took it. There's nothing like being able to choose where you want to live instead of being stuck someplace where you hated it.

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Old 02-05-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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I get it, I had to work my tail off to get my home in NY, I'm still paying the mortgage, taxes, etc, but the home appreciation is through the roof, I guess it's like paying a premium to live near NYC and getting high property values. A realtor said my house would sell in a week, and he had buyer's waiting, even at the lofty price. I lived in Florida for ten years, spent many months in San Diego, but those areas can't compare to the conveniences in Westchester County...best highway system in the nation, low crime, several convenient hospitals, traffic not terrible most of the time, great weather except for winter, and close proximity to NYC. I enjoyed my time in CA and FL for the most part, but I always felt something was missing, like those areas were too rural/country and I couldn't easily get everything I wanted. I always felt I really didn't belong in those other states because New York is my home. I didn't realize how good I had it until I left NY for awhile. I'm glad you got out of NY like you wanted, and are happy in your new state.
Are you saving money by paying premium prices
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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You hated NY and left. Fine. Plenty of people still live there and wouldn't dream of living elsewhere. You gave the world Sheriff Joe and we gave the world Donald Trump. Not much to be proud of, is there?

I personally enjoyed all the time I spent in AZ when our daughter lived there. If I didn't love greenery so much and the change of seasons, we might be there now.

I'm glad you found your Paradise in the land of sunshine, Saguaro and the Grand Canyon (and the heat and the dryness and Sheriff Joe-types). Many people find their paradise in Yankee Stadium, the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Long Island coastline (and the taxes and the crowds and the Wall-Street types). You take the good with the bad.
How proud one is all depends on your perspective. I'll bet you're proud of the Clinton's, the Kennedy's, the Cuomo's, Maxine Waters, Pelosi, Obama? How'd you like that picture of Obama yucking it up with Louis Farrakhan? Or attending the church of Jeremiah Wright? Now that's someone to be really proud of. Right?

The residents of Maricopa County gave the world Sheriff Joe not I or any other resident of Arizona. Had I lived in Maricopa County? Yeah, I would have voted for him. He's planning on running for senator to replace Flake. I plan on voting for either Martha McSally or Kelli Ward in the primaries but will vote for whomever secures the Republican nomination for senator as I would never under any circumstances vote for any Democrat no matter who they run for any public office. I'm against that party and their "nanny state" mentality. They're all about power and control over every aspect of our lives. They need and depend upon an expanding permanent underclass in order to create a socialist welfare state of which elitists will have absolute power and control over the masses. Just as with any other socialist/communist nation throughout the world.

I also don't trust any politician who does not trust law abiding citizens with the possession of firearms. "Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who don't". -- Ben Franklin

As for Trump? I did not vote for him in the primaries, Ted Cruz or Ben Carson were my choices. I ended up voting for Cruz. I voted for Trump once he secured the Republican nomination. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that he would win. However he was much better than that carpetbagging, pathological lying criminal from Chicago, Ill/Little Rock, AK/Chappaqua, NY wherever she claims she's from.

I'm proud of Trump in that he's keeping his word with regard to judicial nominations and confirmations. I'm proud that he's not putting up with all of the relentless Bull S**t that has come his way. I'm proud that he's an America first president instead of one that vowed to fundamentally change it while simultaneously blaming America for the world's problems. A president who's wife claimed that she'd never been proud of this country until her husband became president. I'm proud that the economy is doing much better under his watch then his predecessor.

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Old 02-05-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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No, but since it's about break even proposition between living in NY and Florida, as I explained in my previous post, I'll take NY!
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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I agree with you there. But that all depends on which community you live in as property values vary based on that. If our home was located in Irvington where we grew up, it would have been worth a fortune, at least $800,000 just for the property alone regardless of the homes condition. But because it was located in Peekskill all we got was $285,000. Our home in Arizona was $265,000 and our moving costs came in at around $18,000. One tractor trailer for the household items and another for 4 vehicles. Which included renting and driving a box truck across country carrying items we'd need right away. We profited a whopping $2,000.

The house we have now in Arizona is twice the size of the one we had in Peekskill and in a neighborhood comparable to one in Briarcliff Manor. Our house has gained about $100,000 in value over the 8 years we have lived here. Just recently two comparable homes sold in our neighborhood in less than two months. We have all the same conveniences and services that New Yorker's love to brag about in order to justify their outrageous taxes and costs of living. The highways out here are just as good if not better than they were out there. Granted winter plays a significant role in road conditions. Traffic is nothing when compared to the New York metro area. We are in the Goldilocks zone as far as the weather is concerned. Not too hot, not too cold.

Living in a semi rural area the jobs out here are not that great and limited to tourism, hospitality, recreation and retail. You'll have to go to Phoenix or Tucson for most other types of employment. But the same can be said for semi rural and rural area's nationwide. Being self employed that was never an issue for us.

Arizona may not be for everyone just as New York certainly isn't. For us leaving was for political, economical, and recreational reasons including a love for and a lifelong desire to live in the great American Southwest. When the opportunity came (self employment) we took it. There's nothing like being able to choose where you want to live instead of being stuck someplace where you hated it.
Every place has pros and cons, I'm glad you made such a big transition happily! I'm a big President Trump supporter also,, if it weren't for NYC voters (especially the Bronx, HIlliary's largest support borough), Trump would have taken NY also, the rest of the state was red, except for a few small blue pockets near Albany and a few others. I'm with you and Sheriff Joe!
One more thing, I think a two family income producing home in Westchester County is much more valuable than say a one family in California at the same price, I didn't see one two family house in San Diego while I was there,. Your $100,000 appreciation in 8 years sounds great, good for you! Trump/Pence 2020 MAGA (Trump already has) !!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2018, 01:31 PM
 
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Every place has pros and cons, I'm glad you made such a big transition happily! I'm a big President Trump supporter also,, if it weren't for NYC voters (especially the Bronx, HIlliary's largest support borough), Trump would have taken NY also, the rest of the state was red, except for a few small blue pockets near Albany and a few others. I'm with you and Sheriff Joe!
One more thing, I think a two family income producing home in Westchester County is much more valuable than say a one family in California at the same price, I didn't see one two family house in San Diego while I was there,. Your $100,000 appreciation in 8 years sounds great, good for you! Trump/Pence 2020 MAGA (Trump already has) !!!!!!
I wasn't when he was running in the primaries. Mostly because of the way he was with all the name calling and the way he was towards the other candidates. Although I'm no fan of John McCain, ridiculing his service and captivity while in Viet Nam was reprehensible. I swear to God I never thought Trump could ever secure the nomination and go on to win the presidency after those types of comments. The "Lyin Ted" and "Little Marco" were hardly presidential. I think he could have still gone on to win without resorting to that.

Once he secured the nomination I had no choice than to support him and encourage others to do likewise. Now that he's president I'm not at all sorry that I voted for him. You have to give the man an awful lot of credit that at his age and wealth why he would ever want to put up with all the crap that has been thrown at him? When he could be just sitting back and enjoying the fruits of his labor and accomplishments. I can only guess what motivated him to run? My guess is that he genuinely didn't like the direction this country was headed in and as a successful businessman felt that he was the only one that could turn it around and indeed "Make America Great Again". The man is certainly no fool, and it was masterful in it's own right to pull it off and win the presidency. Trump indeed felt the pulse of America after 8 miserable years of Obama denigrating this country at every opportunity he could. Not to mention standing up for criminals while always placing the blame on law enforcement. He was just another Al Sharpton only with a boyish grin.

Trump was never a politician and was universally hated by politicians on both sides. A quality that endeared him to tens of millions of Americans who have had it with business as usual from those who have made political office their life long careers. Time to break up their little country club and get this country moving on the right path. Indeed "Trump/Pence 2020 MAGA".

If you look at a map of New York and go county by county it is indeed "RED" the same for California and the rest of America especially "fly over country". We can thank God for the wisdom of our founders and the establishment of the electoral college or the coastal elite would be ruling the country. If only state governments had the same system. If that were the case Cuomo would never be governor and down state politicians wouldn't control the state with an iron fist.

But even if New York was to my liking politically I'd still be in Arizona there's just something special about this place that is mysterious and magical. The rock formations, desert vegetation, canyons, mountains and all of the strange creatures that reside there. There's no place like it on the face of the earth. Oh God how we love it here.

Indeed we got lucky buying in the right place at the right price out here. Unlike New York when we bought our first home in Peekskill. Sure it appreciated in the 20 years we took to pay it off but if it had been located elsewhere in Westchester County it would have been worth a helluva' lot more. Especially if it was in Irvington where we grew up. It's really a crying shame about Peekskill as it's in a prime location along the Hudson along with some of the most beautiful Victorian homes you could ever imagine. Many of which were turned into illegal apartments and have become pretty run down not to mention all the litter that's present throughout the city. As they say in real estate: "location, location, location". There are plenty of places in Arizona that aren't appreciating as well if at all.

I don't know too much about the real estate in California compared to New York. As I never had any intention of moving there. Which is too bad as it has some of the most beautiful scenery in America but has turned into a socialist hell hole that cares more about the illegal invaders than American citizens. I hear this all the time from Ex Californians that have fled to Arizona. I've only been through Needles on the way back from the Hoover Dam, that's about as far as I'll go. My cousin was stationed in San Diego while in the Navy he seemed to like it there.

About Sheriff Joe for senate: Yeah I'd vote for him if he were younger, he's now 85. However because of his age and with all of the controversy surrounding him he'll never get elected or even secure the nomination. Sometimes you've just got to vote for who's more electable on the Republican side otherwise a Democrat will surely get in. That's the case with Flake and McCain as bad as they are. They legitimately secured their parties nomination. There was no other choice and a third party is never an option as you could have 34% elect someone that 66% might oppose if the 66% were split evenly. Not voting is never an option either.

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Old 02-05-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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Agree with everything you posted. Don't forget, McCain, Romney, and other RINO's accepted campaign contributions from Trump over the years,, then they stabbed Trump in the back when he was running. that's why Trump made the McCain comments.Trump was considering Cruz as VP, until he lied during the campaign (I think he lied about Ben Carson) and insulted Melania, then Trump turned on him. Yes, thank goodness for the swing states!

I used to live n Croton on Hudson, so I'm familiar with Peekskill, and I have family in Cortland Manor, so I know what you mean. At the time my realtor told me everyone wants to live in Croton, not the other cities surrounding it. I used to love going to Blue Mountain, eating at Capri 1 and II, etc. Some years back I went to an outdoor flea market in Peekskill and a store owner told me to watch my purse when I walked around, so I never went back. I don't know if it's better or worse now.

Stock market tanked big today and you know those snowflakes will blame Trump!

Enjoy the Arizona weather, NY is freezing today from the Northwest winds

Trump/Pence 2020 MAGA
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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Agree with everything you posted. Don't forget, McCain, Romney, and other RINO's accepted campaign contributions from Trump over the years,, then they stabbed Trump in the back when he was running. that's why Trump made the McCain comments.Trump was considering Cruz as VP, until he lied during the campaign (I think he lied about Ben Carson) and insulted Melania, then Trump turned on him. Yes, thank goodness for the swing states!

I used to live n Croton on Hudson, so I'm familiar with Peekskill, and I have family in Cortland Manor, so I know what you mean. At the time my realtor told me everyone wants to live in Croton, not the other cities surrounding it. I used to love going to Blue Mountain, eating at Capri 1 and II, etc. Some years back I went to an outdoor flea market in Peekskill and a store owner told me to watch my purse when I walked around, so I never went back. I don't know if it's better or worse now.

Stock market tanked big today and you know those snowflakes will blame Trump!

Enjoy the Arizona weather, NY is freezing today from the Northwest winds

Trump/Pence 2020 MAGA
My wife and I really wanted Ted Cruz or Ben Carson. We never liked McCain or Romney. Romney reminded me of Ward Cleaver. No offense to Hugh Beaumont. I couldn't stand it when he claimed that he was: "severely Conservative". If he was severely Conservative he never would have been elected Governor of Massachusetts. But running against Obama I had no choice other than to vote for him. I've voted in every election since turning 18.

I have a lot of friends that live in Croton. Still do and we are always in contact with each other. We used to take our antique cars and street rods to the Croton Gorge Park and just hang out on weekends. Sometimes we'd caravan to the Kensico Dam plaza until they closed it off. I got some good shots of my car just beneath the Croton Dam with the waterfalls behind it. It's a pretty cool place. Sometimes we'd park on top of the bridge at that little parking area just after the bridge. I don't know if you can still do that? It's a shame that people litter I think that's what did it. All the empty beer cans established it as a hot spot to party. I still have the cars and Arizona is the place for them that's for sure. No road salt and mild winters.

We didn't go out to eat much but know of a lot of people that went to Capri 1 and 11. Both are popular Peekskill eateries. When we left Peekskill our neighborhood was beginning to get inundated with illegal invaders. That was about 8 years ago. Calls to code enforcement about illegal apartments were all in vain. There was a major drug bust 4 houses up from us. DEA, FBI, state and local police, the works. I can't imagine it being any better today.

We used to go to Mike's vegetable stand on Old Albany Post Rd. just before the A&P for all of our produce. Mike used to make fresh mozzarella along with smoked mozzarella. Mike was a great guy along with his wife Gloria. Unfortunately Mike died and the stand closed shortly after. That was about 20 years ago. We still miss them to this day.

We've gone to the Blue Mountain shooting range so I know that area well. I don't know if that's still open due to political correctness? Out here you can go just about anywhere and target shoot.

Yeah, they'll blame Trump when the stock market is down yet give Obama credit when it's up. That's to be expected.

Indeed the weather is nice out here, always is. Stay warm and it's a pleasure writing to you. Trump/Pence 2020 MAGA. I've still got my yard signs ready for 2020!

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