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Old 08-19-2021, 07:55 AM
 
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Current Westchester County Executive George Latimer confirmed that the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has been authorizing inbound flights into the airport without making it publicly known.

The flights are part of a national operation to reunite minors who had been separated from their families. In total, it has been estimated that hundreds of immigrants have been flown into Westchester during late-night flights.

Latimer said that the HHS operation was part of President Joe Biden’s Office of Refugee Resettlement operation, and not specific to Westchester, as his administration attempts to reunite children under the age of 18 with their families.

The immigrants were taken from private flights and placed on buses, with anyone eligible to receive a COVID-19 vaccine getting one. It is not clear how many flights have come into Westchester.

Astorino, a Republican, held a press briefing on the matter outside the airport on Monday, Aug. 16, and has been sharing photos and videos of planes that flew in the immigrants.

Assemblyman Colin Schmitt (R - New Windsor) also issued a statement of his own condemning the flights while taking a shot at Democrat leaders.

“It has been confirmed that the Biden Administration has been sending flights carrying illegal aliens who were detained crossing our southern border to the Westchester County Airport,” he wrote in an email blast. “This occurred without notice to the public or county officials.
https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/york...ts-say/814617/

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Most importantly, Westchester was prohibited from ignoring either the residential racial segregation that continues to plague it, or the municipal resistance to affordable housing development that stymies the possibility of changing those patterns. The County was required to initiate legal action against the towns and villages that continued to maintain barriers to fair housing choice, most notably zoning barriers.
Westchester Case | Anti-Discrimination Center

"Zoning Barriers" = single family houses in a stable real estate market.

Is it a good idea to expand Section 8 housing in Westchester for these full planes of immigrants from our southern border?
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Old 08-19-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/york...ts-say/814617/

Westchester Case | Anti-Discrimination Center

"Zoning Barriers" = single family houses in a stable real estate market.

Is it a good idea to expand Section 8 housing in Westchester for these full planes of immigrants from our southern border?
Has Westchester County been a hub for refugee resettlement? Usually, it has been cities Upstate, but the article mentioned illegal immigrants and refugees within the article. That is confusing, because they aren't the same. https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr

https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/map/find...cts-your-state

https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/policy-g...vices-locality
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Old 08-19-2021, 12:33 PM
 
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Has Westchester County been a hub for refugee resettlement? Usually, it has been cities Upstate, but the article mentioned illegal immigrants and refugees within the article. That is confusing, because they aren't the same. https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr

https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/map/find...cts-your-state

https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/policy-g...vices-locality
I too have not heard of refugees being settled in Westchester county. Maybe the OP has an issue with the use of the airport? But airports across the U.S. have been used to fly-in refugees for over a generation so not sure what the issue is.
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Old 08-19-2021, 12:49 PM
 
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Has Westchester County been a hub for refugee resettlement? Usually, it has been cities Upstate, but the article mentioned illegal immigrants and refugees within the article. That is confusing, because they aren't the same.
To answer your question: Typically, illegal immigrants aren't refugees. However, now the two terms are merging together.

On another note:

Ckhthankgod, I always like your posts. If you get a chance watch PBS's "the American Experience: New York.". It goes over how immigration has hurt African Americans in the past and how FDR's New Deal created redlining. It was the first time, Africa Americans experienced housing segregation in NYC. How old African Americans neighborhoods were razed for projects. It's just very interesting and I thought, with your posting history, you might enjoy it.
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:01 PM
 
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It goes over how immigration has hurt African Americans in the past
These were immigrants who had legal documents, not undocumented immigrants. Depending on who you ask, one can argue that all immigration which is for the most part legal hurts African Americans. Their immigration status has little to do with it.

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how FDR's New Deal created redlining. It was the first time, Africa Americans experienced housing segregation in NYC. How old African Americans neighborhoods were razed for projects. It's just very interesting and I thought, with your posting history, you might enjoy it.
In the postwar period, the USA's leaders thought they faced a housing crisis from millions of soldiers (who were mostly white) returning from overseas. So they implemented housing plans that razed or bled certain urban neighborhoods populated by people of color in favor of the suburbs and exurbs. Immigration had little to do with this.
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:04 PM
 
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I too have not heard of refugees being settled in Westchester county. Maybe the OP has an issue with the use of the airport? But airports across the U.S. have been used to fly-in refugees for over a generation so not sure what the issue is.
I self-isolated, social distanced all last year. It might have driven me crazy, , but I don't want anyone with covid traveling.

We are bringing covid-positive illegals into our communities. IDK what could go wrong?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/u...mentsContainer

I agree with Assemblyman Colin Schmitt.

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This is fundamentally wrong and sending these detainees to be released in our communities during the COVID-19 pandemic represents a clear threat to the health and safety of our region.”
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:11 PM
 
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I self-isolated, social distanced all last year. It might have driven me crazy, , but I don't want anyone with covid traveling.

We are bringing covid-positive illegals into our communities. IDK what could go wrong?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/u...mentsContainer

I agree with Assemblyman Colin Schmitt.
All such arrivals are required to take a COVID-19 test upon arrival, which is stricter than for travelers arriving in the U.S. with proper documentation. It looks like Schmitt is using COVID-19 as a cover for his other issues with immigrants.
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:19 PM
 
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These were immigrants who had legal documents, not undocumented immigrants. Depending on who you ask, one can argue that all immigration which is for the most part legal hurts African Americans. Their immigration status has little to do with it.


In the postwar period, the USA's leaders thought they faced a housing crisis from millions of soldiers (who were mostly white) returning from overseas. So they implemented housing plans that razed or bled certain urban neighborhoods populated by people of color in favor of the suburbs and exurbs. Immigration had little to do with this.
I thought ckhthankgod would like the PBS series. I didn't say the FDR's housing issue had anything to with immigration.

Yes, all immigration hurts African Americans. The immigration status has nothing to do with it. However, immigration status doesn't make it right.
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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All such arrivals are required to take a COVID-19 test upon arrival, which is stricter than for travelers arriving in the U.S. with proper documentation. It looks like Schmitt is using COVID-19 as a cover for his other issues with immigrants.
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The Border Patrol said it does not have the capacity to test migrants for the coronavirus upon arrival; doing so would require them to remain even longer in crowded border processing stations when the priority is to release them as quickly as possible, officials said.

Catholic Charities since last year had been testing migrant families for the virus immediately upon their release by Border Patrol and isolating those who test positive at its downtown shelter. In February, amid an uptick in arrivals, it began sending those families to motels.

The post, headlined “Covid-19 Alert,” said officers had been previously unaware that migrants who had tested positive were at the hotel and noted that 20 to 30 of them had been observed “out and about, the majority without face masks.”

The locations of motels quarantining migrants have not been publicized, and Vilma Ayala, 60, said that she spent the night at one of them, only to realize that many fellow guests were Covid-positive migrants.

“Never did they tell us they were using this hotel for Covid people,” said Ms. Ayala, who had not been vaccinated. She said that she grew suspicious when she saw food being delivered to several rooms. She demanded, and received, a refund.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/u...der-covid.html

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According to the release, 80 border agents recently tested positive for COVID-19 in the Rio Grande Valley sector, with another 17 border agents testing positive for COVID-19 in the Laredo sector.

Additionally, more than 100 border agents are in isolation for COVID-19 exposure, the release says. No information was provided regarding COVID-19 among migrants.
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/s...a-eebf73f3f60c

Testing isn't perfect:

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Accuracy for people with COVID-19 symptoms
For people with symptoms of COVID-19, the tests correctly gave a positive result an average of 72 percent of the time. The 95 percent confidence intervals were 63.7 to 79 percent, meaning that the researchers were 95 percent confident that the average fell between these two values.

Accuracy for people without COVID-19 symptoms
The researchers found that people without COVID-19 symptoms correctly tested positive in 58.1 percent of rapid tests. The 95 percent confidence intervals were 40.2 to 74.1 percent.

Accuracy during the first week of symptoms versus the second
Rapid tests more accurately provided a positive COVID-19 result when administered during the first week of symptoms. The researchers found that rapid tests correctly identified COVID-19 in an average of 78.3 percent of cases during the first week.

In the second week, the average dropped to 51 percent.
https://www.healthline.com/health/ho...accurate-is-it
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:43 PM
 
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Testing isn't perfect:
That's also true for all other people arriving in the U.S. with documents for business and pleasure, and these travelers greatly outnumber the people being flown into WCA.
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