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i'm probably in the minority, but I dont consider Asheville to be that pleasant of a place. If you walk around Asheville, it's ok, but if you ever walk around downtown Greenville, you realize just how dirty a place Asheville is.
And I only drive past Greenville to get to Asheville. I find Greenville unattractive, hot, humid and everything I am going to the mountans to get away from. Even though it is close distance wise it is so far as far as climate, geography, and culture.
Give me that fresh mountain air any day. And I always find it amazing that people who come on this forum to inquire about moving to Asheville have people come back with, "But you should check out Greenville. . . "
They are so different that I can't imagaine anyone interested in WNC considering Greenville. I guess the only reason would be it is not that far a drive if you can't live in your desired area. And I do understand that the job situation is better in Greenville.
Yes just proves the different strokes for different folks!
Well, the first thing homosexuals find offensive is that their very lives are referred to as a "lifestyle". They don't have lifestyles; they have lives. They go to work, maintain their households and pay bills like everyone else. They have relationships like everyone else, the only difference being the sex of the partner.
it's an unnatural lifestyle, which I think it the reason people call it that. There's nothing natural about a man having sexual affection for another man, and a woman for another woman.
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The second thing homosexuals find offensive is not that people don't agree with them; it's the fact that those people want to deprive them of civil rights according to their religious beliefs which are not shared by all.
yes, some do find it offensive simply because people do not agree with their lifestyle, not just because there are groups who want to keep them from marrying. Many times has someone been labeled a bigot simply because they disagree with homosexuality.
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One could easily argue that the heterosexual community is rife with problems since the majority of rapes and child sexual abuse are committed by heterosexual men. But no one ever thinks of taking away the rights of heterosexuals or refers to a "heterosexual lifestyle" negatively.
that doesnt prove anything.....each lifestyle poses their own problems.
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According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the definition for a bigot is as follows: "BIGOT: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance."
According to that definition, the word "bigot" does seem to apply.
Would you label homosexuals who are intolerant of opposing views on homosexuality, bigots?
Yes, but "pleasant" can refer to more than cleanliness. People consider Asheville pleasant because of the scenery, the arts, the music, and the large independent farm-to-table restaurant scene.
Cleanliness is something to be encouraged of course, but Asheville does have more of the above than Greenville.
i would agree with you that where Asheville is located is definitely a prettier place, but I'm referring to the city itself.
it's an unnatural lifestyle, which I think it the reason people call it that. There's nothing natural about a man having sexual affection for another man, and a woman for another woman.
There's that "lifestyle" word again. If you are talking about behavior, WHO gets to define it as unnatural? You? There is homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom, btw. It seems to have occurred in nature quite a bit.
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yes, some do find it offensive simply because people do not agree with their lifestyle, not just because there are groups who want to keep them from marrying. Many times has someone been labeled a bigot simply because they disagree with homosexuality.
I think you need to go back and read what I said. You have a right to your own beliefs, right up UNTIL you try to control what consenting adults do in their own lives or hassle them in any way.
If you don't like homosexuality, then don't practice it! More power to ya! Who cares? Other than that, it's really none of your business what other people do.
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that doesnt prove anything.....each lifestyle poses their own problems.
It was meant to make you think. It's tiresome how so many people want to portray homosexuals as a problem and don't look at the behavior of heterosexuals.
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Would you label homosexuals who are intolerant of opposing views on homosexuality, bigots?
Again, I already said in my first post to you that what bothers them is when you try to prevent their civil rights. It bothers them if you hassle them. How can a person be a bigot for being intolerant of someone trying to force their intoleranceon them?
it's an unnatural lifestyle, which I think it the reason people call it that. There's nothing natural about a man having sexual affection for another man, and a woman for another woman.
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There's that "lifestyle" word again. If you are talking about behavior, WHO gets to define it as unnatural? You? There is homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom, btw. It seems to have occurred in nature quite a bit.
This is not a *local* issue, so it's off-topic for this local forum. You're welcome to take the conversation to DM or join in one of the [numerous] threads in the Politics & Other Controversies or Religion & Philosophy forums.
The classical conservative columnist Charley Reese once wrote a piece he called "Secession." It was not about political secession, but about individuals personally seceding from societal behaviors he called decadent and nutty. I'm sure Mr.Forrester would approve, right until he gets to what separates a classical conservative like Mr. Reese from himself. That is explained rather well in this quote from Mr. Reese's column I mentioned above.
"As I said, our society is decadent and nutty. We all have to do what we have to do to make a living, but beyond that, we have a great deal of freedom to live our lives by our own values. For example, if you don't approve of gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person; if you disapprove of abortion, don't get one; if you dislike drugs and tobacco, don't use them; if you are opposed to war, don't participate in it; if you are against gambling, don't bet.
It's my observation that most of what people vociferously complain about are not things they are forced to do, but things that other people choose to do. A favorite phrase of my father — "None of your business" — seems to have become obsolete in our busybody society. The government is a busybody, its supporters are busybodies, and its opponents are busybodies, making it a conflict among busybodies as to which aspects of people's private lives the government should regulate."
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