Living here sucks...here's why (Wichita, Kansas City: apartment complexes, homes, buying)

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

That is a contradictory statement, and many people have been leaving the state due to bad state governance, and the trend is accelerating, especially if you exclude the one economically solid county in the state, Johnson County.

How exactly is it contradictory?

Secondly, how do you make your claim without adjusting for historical industry like agriculture and aerospace?

Do you have something we could read to source at least the latter?

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

How exactly is it contradictory?

Secondly, how do you make your claim without adjusting for historical industry like agriculture and aerospace?

Do you have something we could read to source at least the latter?

It is contradictory because people try to avoid moving to areas with mediocre to poor schools if they do in fact have kids, but unfortunately the reality is not often the case. Second, you keep bringing up agriculture and manufacturing, and I have posted in numerous other threads that is a small fraction of the total number of jobs in the state. Kansas has performed among the worst of any state economically over the last year, does not even remotely track with the rest of the country as a more rural non energy patch state. Given the recent census update of flat to negative population growth at the state level, people are leaving in increasing numbers to states that are performing better economically.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

It is contradictory because people try to avoid moving to areas with mediocre to poor schools if they do in fact have kids, but unfortunately the reality is not often the case. Second, you keep bringing up agriculture and manufacturing, and I have posted in numerous other threads that is a small fraction of the total number of jobs in the state. Kansas has performed among the worst of any state economically over the last year, does not even remotely track with the rest of the country as a more rural non energy patch state. Given the recent census update of flat to negative population growth at the state level, people are leaving in increasing numbers to states that are performing better economically.

Could you show a 10 year example of out-migration? like a graph or something?

As previously noted I think you see many things Kansas as Y = mx + b

Instead of Y = m(i)x(i) + b where i is a large series.

[sholomar]

Not much different from south Dakota except no state income tax. I'm here for the work. Sioux falls is 50 minutes away going 80mph. Sioux falls is smaller than wicheta. I'm fine with it. To each their own. They have a nice off road bike trail and falls park which I use fairly often.

I can transfer to other 3m plants if I want but have not so far though I have my eyes on Greenville sc.

Most of the points the OP makes are technically accurate though except around here there are numerous lakes and fishing is popular. Winters are quite a bit colder while summers are about perfect. Because its not as hot it typically stays green here in summer.

I like warm and severe weather so I'd personally prefer Kansas... Our severe weather is pretty tame unless you head west or south a ways.

If you dislike it that much you should move to a higher population density area with a bigger meteo area like Milwaukee.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Could you show a 10 year example of out-migration? like a graph or something?

As previously noted I think you see many things Kansas as Y = mx + b

Instead of Y = m(i)x(i) + b where i is a large series.

I'll dig up the statistics in a bit, but that does not change statistical and economical realities. Those realities do not take too many complex formulas to determine that out-migration out of the state is quite high and economic growth is negative in the last year. It's hard to come up with revenue streams with income tax reductions, negative economic growth, and out-migration. The math won't work regardless.

[Joe Mantegna]

Originally Posted by Calvert Hall '62

You could come here to the very progressive and diverse People's Republic of Maryland which is overrun with us left wing moonbats and which has been described as "America in Miniature" from the mountains in the west to the seashores in the east. We have lots of culture, monuments, history, the National Aquarium, pro football and major league baseball.


Other attractions for us open-minded liberals include a tax for every letter of the alphabet; a bleeding heart justice system that favors criminals rather than victims; a sanctuary for illegals including MS-13; and our largest city is always top 10 per capita in murder, STDs, and OD deaths

Regardless of your ideology, government is only as good as the people running it. Even good ideas can get run into the ground by incompetence. You can go around the entire country and find examples of both left leaning and right leaning places that are good or bad. Using a singular example like Maryland or Wichita to prove a larger point is pure lunacy, and I think you know it

[Digger 68]

Originally Posted by Joe Mantegna

Regardless of your ideology, government is only as good as the people running it. Even good ideas can get run into the ground by incompetence. You can go around the entire country and find examples of both left leaning and right leaning places that are good or bad. Using a singular example like Maryland or Wichita to prove a larger point is pure lunacy, and I think you know it

Probably not reading this thread any longer but the poster you were referencing is one of the complete loonies on the Baltimore forum. A typical finger pointer and nothing more.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by cornerstone23

Kansas sucks ass. I lived in Andover for 3 years. Of all the places I have lived Kansas has the least to offer. Its butt ugly. Flat and just butt ugly. The cops give out tickets like its candy on Halloween, maybe because they live in Kansas. They are over zealous religious. Nut bars on god. Tornado, weather it just sucks ass.

Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

[elkotronics]

Kansas sucks ass. I lived in Andover for 3 years. Of all the places I have lived Kansas has the least to offer. Its butt ugly. Flat and just butt ugly. The cops give out tickets like its candy on Halloween, maybe because they live in Kansas. They are over zealous religious. Nut bars on god. Tornado, weather it just sucks ass.

Those that reject our Creator are rejecting the giver of life. Go right ahead. Step right up. Take a card, any card.

[widespreadfan]

We have lived in metro areas with well over 1 million people and a small town with 9,000. Wichita is a great place because you can get anywhere in town in about 25 minutes. The amenities are nice and people are friendly. I love the Wichita flag and the pride that people have in living here.