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Old 09-27-2010, 08:49 PM
 
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Thanks to our blue-green political buracracy, Wisconsin residents can no longer use dish washing detergents that contain more than .03 percent phosphate. Just in case you thought your dishwasher was broken (like I did) because now glasses actually come out spottier than when they go in. While the rest of the country continues to use phosates, we here in Wisconsin can wave oour green flags proudly...not that any of our elected officials asked us first. Guess we're not responsible enough to decide for ourselves....sheesh.
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:11 PM
 
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Look on the bright side... you're in Wisconsin and can have some cheese to go with you whine.
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:29 PM
 
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Method Smarty Tabs from Target. Consumer Reports featured phosphate free dish washer detergents several month ago, and this was the only one they found to really work right now. I've used it and can vouch for their effectiveness. Wisconsin is a curious state. It took forever to push a smoking ban through, but they are on the leading edge of the phosphate movement.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:32 AM
 
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So your upset because Wisconsin is concerned about its water ? Its those dange concerned beaurocrats that worry about clean/non polluted water?
Most areas of the country should be so lucky.

Your glasses are spotty?
How about some good ol' elbow grease ?

Just being snarky, but really, I would think people would be behind anything that keeps a state with allllll that water on check.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:45 AM
 
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If we need to scrub our dishes clean what's the point of having a dishwasher?
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:00 AM
 
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Minnesota did the same thing last year or the year before...when I noticed it, I stocked up on the remaining stock that still contained phosphate, which is now all gone. I wonder if its against the rules to buy the kind with phosphate in another state when you're traveling? I remember my grandparents talking about how they would purchase margarine when they were in Illinois to bring back to WI.
Yes, I care about the water, but it should be a personal consumer choice not regulated by the government. I can't wait for the lightbulb regulation to take effect.
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:22 AM
 
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Really? Your glasses have spots?! OMG! It is the end of the world! How dare they! Spots! Spots! SPOTS!!!! I imagine you can't even drink out of them now!
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:35 AM
 
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Some of it probably depends on the water quality. I usually scrape and rinse the dishes lightly before they are put into the dishwasher. I also do not use any detergent in the second wash (the covered compartment), instead I put extra in the first wash. No hot dry either; I crack the door instead. Before I started doing these things my glasses looked like they had a gray film on them. Now they are completely clean. No spots, no film, nothing. I have unknowingly used phosphate free detergent for years, because that's usually what is available at Whole Foods or Trader Joe's.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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Yes, I care about the water, but it should be a personal consumer choice not regulated by the government.
I am normally for minimal government interference in my life, but isn't this sort of thing the government is for. If left to their own devices people will not do what's best for the good in this situation. So even if you decide you want clean water and make the choice to be phospahte free, if matters for naught because what your neighbors do affects the water you drink. You can disagree with whether the law is necessary or effective, but it is certainly not a "personal" choice
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:35 PM
 
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I am normally for minimal government interference in my life, but isn't this sort of thing the government is for. If left to their own devices people will not do what's best for the good in this situation. So even if you decide you want clean water and make the choice to be phospahte free, if matters for naught because what your neighbors do affects the water you drink. You can disagree with whether the law is necessary or effective, but it is certainly not a "personal" choice
Do you just wait for me to post something so you can automatically disagree? The founding fathers would laugh if they saw the level of government meddling in our daily, PERSONAL lives today. Keep your laws off my dishwasher.
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