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Old 06-07-2012, 09:44 PM
 
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Some of you should stop thinking the world is going to end and get a grasp of reality.....democracy ended (lol...lol....I ever laughed so hard in my life when that idiot ranted on CNN... I saw the clip on YouTube).

And that bafoon is what liberals would call educated because he has a diploma. lol...lol.

Some of you would be better off living in China.
The crying guy gets even better when he tries to make a stand on Vicki McKenna's show. It's priceless. Some people are amazingly stupid!
Vicki McKenna 06-06-12 - NewsTalk 1310 WIBA - Madison News, Weather, Sports
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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http://urbangrounds.com/2012/06/democracy-died-tonight/
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:34 AM
 
Location: New England
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As a Madison native - educated at UW Madison....and now working in a RIGHT TO FIRE state (Utah).... I have an interesting perspective.

Democracy lost this week in Wisconsin. Hearing that most of the voters were brainwashed from November to March via the Koch-bought airwaves... they were sunk by money - and a lack of critical thinking skills. Jealousy too. Well guess what? After they come after the govt workers? They will come after YOU.

I have a government job here. They've already cut the state pension program - into Tiers. If you're lucky enough to be Tier 1 (LIKE MOST OF THE STATE LEGISLATORS) - your bennies do not change. If you're hired after July 2010 - you're sunk. Why be a public servant - and take a horrible barely surviveable salary - with nothing to benefit at the end of 30 years - if they're going to treat you like crap?

It's a race to the bottom.

And yearly raises? We have Divide and Conquer here as well. Why give govt workers COLAs and raises? neighbors of legislators who worked in the private sector - who ran their employees out on a rail because they so poorly managed their businesses - are COMPLAINING... it's pure jealousy.

YOU CHOSE to work in the private sector. The private sector TOOK ADVANTAGE OF YOU. How is that MY problem?

That's what Right To Work is all about. Employees BE DAMNED. We can fire you for any reason under the sun - and not be held accountable. Get Ready Wisconsin.

Oh - and we can hire only people we like, aka are of our same "RELIGION", Party, Etc. Etc..... and NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

Get Ready Wisconsin.

Personally? I'm waiting for the Walker PerP Walk. I want his cronies to sing like CANARIES. I want his ass OUT.
You're perspective is laughable at best.
"Like Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Utah law prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age or disability. Anyone who believes they have been subject to discrimination on a job has a right to file a charge with the UALD of the Utah Labor Commission."
Utah Labor Commission
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:27 AM
 
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The crying guy gets even better when he tries to make a stand on Vicki McKenna's show. It's priceless. Some people are amazingly stupid!
Vicki McKenna 06-06-12 - NewsTalk 1310 WIBA - Madison News, Weather, Sports
Wow that guy is a nut.......one thing to have an emotional rant, but another to continue that line of thinking the following day.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:31 AM
mlb
 
Location: North Monterey County
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You're perspective is laughable at best.
"Like Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Utah law prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age or disability. Anyone who believes they have been subject to discrimination on a job has a right to file a charge with the UALD of the Utah Labor Commission."
Utah Labor Commission
This is incredibly laughable. Just because they have a law does not mean it is enforced. It's what Utah does VERY well. Give the impression of being tough - but not caring one whit.

Have you ever requested a hearing from the Utah Labor Commission? Are you aware how poorly funded they are?

Do you know how many complaints they receive every year from people fired without reason? And how often they side with business?

They are, without a doubt, beholding to the Utah State Legislature - which does NOT aggressively pursue civil nor employment rights issues.

It's the epitome of "small" government. Small minded government.


You are an idiot.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Mlb,
You can always Quit. You are not a slave.
Stop the whining. You chose your profession for reasons known only to you, so make a change or suck it up. Jesus - this whining is getting old.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:28 AM
 
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And yet, you still don't get it..

Willard is still well behind Obama in Wisconsin..and many other states..
Mitt has a small lead over Obama in Michigan. Michigan has alway been a Democrat state looks like time are a changing. Bill Clinton has state many times Mitt has what it takes to be president.


With five months until Election Day, Barack Obama faces a grim new reality: Republicans now believe Mitt Romney can win, and Democrats believe Obama can lose.

Between the Lines: By Mark Halperin - TIME


Clinton praised the GOP nominee for having a “sterling business career” and urged Obama to call off his campaign’s broadsides on Romney’s time as CEO of Bain Capital, a venture capital firm.

“I don’t think we ought to get into the position where we say this is bad work, this is good work,” Clinton said during a CNN interview.

Bill Clinton praises Mitt - New York Daily News


Thanks again Scott Walker an the good folks of Wisconsin!!
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I am amazed at some of the apocalyptic rants that I keep seeing from the anti-Walker crowd.

Have any of you ever worked in union shops? Non-union shops? A non-union shop can be a beautiful thing. The "us versus them" crap that is fostered in the union environment is poisonous and toxic. The absolute best situation is a fair employer and a thankful employee, with zero unionism to be found.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I have HOPE:

Daily Kos: Don't Celebrate Too Soon.

Scottie's in Big Trouble.

I like Daily Kos too; very intelligent writing on that site.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I am amazed at some of the apocalyptic rants that I keep seeing from the anti-Walker crowd.

Have any of you ever worked in union shops? Non-union shops? A non-union shop can be a beautiful thing. The "us versus them" crap that is fostered in the union environment is poisonous and toxic. The absolute best situation is a fair employer and a thankful employee, with zero unionism to be found.

I've worked in both. The non-union workplaces are places where employees can be, and are, abused at the whim of management; I saw it and have seen it since 1978, when I entered the workforce. The union workplace I'm in now has checks on managerial abuse (or abuse by anyone, for that matter) and procedures put in place for fairness must be followed. I work in accounting and am a firm believer in checks and balances.

Someone posted on City Data about how the election was about envy for many voters; that it was more difficult for the Republicans to attack public employees protected by unions, so they worked to make people envious of these protections. It seems to be the consensus that envy was a prime motivation. Which is pretty sad, that instead of working to gain the same protections for themselves in the profit sector by organizing, they chose to attack their fellow workers in this manner. Divide and conquer indeed.
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