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Old 03-14-2017, 08:49 AM
 
Location: SE WI
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So 60 new cases of voter fraud from last spring's primary were just uncovered, 9 in Kewaunee county alone. Despite being a federal offense, no charges will be filed against the criminal voters.


If the voting administrators (or whatever you call them) cannot even properly verify the identity of a voter, why have they not been charged?
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Come on, do you want to send 17 year olds to jail, just because they wanted to influence their future? This county has already highest incarceration rate,and highest cost per prisoner. We need to have less of them there, not more.
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Come on, do you want to send 17 year olds to jail, just because they wanted to influence their future? This county has already highest incarceration rate,and highest cost per prisoner. We need to have less of them there, not more.
Yes- they committed crimes. Go change the laws if that is what you want.

This is not about THESE 17 yr olds. The issue of punishment is to assure next year's 17 yr old's don't commit the same crime.
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Old 03-15-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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Blame the election judges, they failed!
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:17 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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In many states you can vote in primaries at 17. It only makes sense to do so. These kids were told to go vote because in much of the country you can vote at 17 in primaries if you turn 18 for the election (there were plenty of politicians and even PSAs about it). You can vote at 17 in primaries in IA, IL, IN, MN (for the president), OH, ND, etc etc.

The kids didn't fail, the election officials failed.

Now the smart thing would be to change the law so that 17 years that turn 18 before the election can vote in the primaries, as the primary isn't an election, it is a nomination (BIG DIFFERENCE), but Wisconsin politics hasn't been smart for awhile.

Calling this voter fraud is also factually incorrect. The definition of fraud is wrongful or criminal deception (neither of these apply here).

Mod cut.

Last edited by PJSaturn; 03-17-2017 at 07:25 AM.. Reason: Personal attack.
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Old 03-16-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: SE WI
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Come on, do you want to send 17 year olds to jail, just because they wanted to influence their future? This county has already highest incarceration rate,and highest cost per prisoner. We need to have less of them there, not more.
If the voters presented a fake identification to register, they should be penalized, if for any other reason to serve as a deterrent to future fraud.


If the clerks allowed them to register without verifying their credentials, they should be penalized.


They just found 10 more cases yesterday. Now we are up to 70.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Obviously this needs to be looked at so we can prevent it from happening again. I highly doubt that the 17 year olds knowingly committed voter fraud. It's more likely that they were confused about the law, which is understandable with the combination of laws that vary from state to state and national advertising campaigns. As our legal system determines the proper penalty, I hope they will keep the big picture in mind. Encouraging civil engagement of our citizens is a good thing for our nation.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: SE WI
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Well, let's hope the clerks have learned how to verify the voter's ID in today's election.
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