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Old 03-15-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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I am just wondering about the people of Wisconsin if you are happy with Paul Ryan? I have watched this guy on videos and read news articles about him. I have never seen such a radical person on health care. I am totally against his ideas of making health more expensive especially older retired people. He so against our health care system that he can taste it. He is doing his level best to increase cost on everyone.You talk against the rich and he says he's not concerned about them getting a bigger tax break but only concerned with taking away health care. Are the people of Wisconsin going to vote him out of office. If he was here in Missouri he would be on his last term. I would like to see him removed from office quickly. I am thinking about doing a video to motivate people to start thinking of voting him out. What are the thoughts of the people of Wisconsin on removing him from office.
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Old 03-15-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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He'll be voted out next election if RyanIdontcare goes through.
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Old 03-17-2017, 03:58 PM
 
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I live in WI and I do not like Ryan (nor Walker) and never have. I don't understand his logic whatsoever on his "RyanCare" proposal. But of course he will never in his lifetime have to worry about his own healthcare where he would be subject to what he is proposing for everyone else so it is no shocker that he doesn't care how it hurts or affects anyone else. He also married into a TON of money so he doesn't give a flying leap about the average American and never will.

He has clearly shown his true colors and I can't believe there is anyone that is not seeing it. I sure hope he is voted out at next election.
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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He'll be voted out next election if RyanIdontcare goes through.
Doubt it - look at his reelection numbers. He has the job as long as he wants it.

What is not to like about the proposal? if anything it still allows excessive gov't intervention in medical care.

Obamacare is Dead. Even if there was no alternative plan being recommended, it would be dead soon due to it's own idiot assumptions and lack of long term viability.

That is what we get when we look to government to solve any problem. Ignorant proposals that are not solutions.

Those of you left of center that dislike Ryan should actually thank your lucky stars. You could have had someone much more right wing than him.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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I am just wondering about the people of Wisconsin if you are happy with Paul Ryan? I have watched this guy on videos and read news articles about him. I have never seen such a radical person on health care. I am totally against his ideas of making health more expensive especially older retired people. He so against our health care system that he can taste it. He is doing his level best to increase cost on everyone.You talk against the rich and he says he's not concerned about them getting a bigger tax break but only concerned with taking away health care. Are the people of Wisconsin going to vote him out of office. If he was here in Missouri he would be on his last term. I would like to see him removed from office quickly. I am thinking about doing a video to motivate people to start thinking of voting him out. What are the thoughts of the people of Wisconsin on removing him from office.
Paul Ryan is an establishment republican of the worst kind. I Wish he was forced to resign as he is a road block preventing any actual progress.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:29 PM
 
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Doubt it - look at his reelection numbers. He has the job as long as he wants it.

What is not to like about the proposal? if anything it still allows excessive gov't intervention in medical care.

Obamacare is Dead. Even if there was no alternative plan being recommended, it would be dead soon due to it's own idiot assumptions and lack of long term viability.

That is what we get when we look to government to solve any problem. Ignorant proposals that are not solutions.

Those of you left of center that dislike Ryan should actually thank your lucky stars. You could have had someone much more right wing than him.
I'm certainly not thankful for Ryan. And what don't I like about Trump care? Lots of things. But start off with a 64 year old person (short of Medicare) having an increase of at least $8,000 per year in premiums.
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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I'm certainly not thankful for Ryan. And what don't I like about Trump care? Lots of things. But start off with a 64 year old person (short of Medicare) having an increase of at least $8,000 per year in premiums.
You have the same increases with current Obamacare plan.
Read and digest actual facts, not pablum fed to the masses by ideologues of either party in the media.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: East Side Milwaukee
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You have the same increases with current Obamacare plan.
Read and digest actual facts, not pablum fed to the masses by ideologues of either party in the media.
You would not have those increases under the current Obamacare plan. Ryan & Trump's plan would cut healthcare subsidies for people who are older & have less income. It uses the savings to give tax cuts to their wealthy donors.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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You would not have those increases under the current Obamacare plan. Ryan & Trump's plan would cut healthcare subsidies for people who are older & have less income. It uses the savings to give tax cuts to their wealthy donors.
Nope- sorry dude. Not only is everything you state false but you seem to not realize that Obamacare is going to die with or without any pressure from any replacement law. It fundamentally and structurally cannot work long term.

Older people (and I am one) SHOULD Pay more. We are the primary users of the product. Health care is not a "right."
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Floyd County, IN
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Nope- sorry dude. Not only is everything you state false but you seem to not realize that Obamacare is going to die with or without any pressure from any replacement law. It fundamentally and structurally cannot work long term.

Older people (and I am one) SHOULD Pay more. We are the primary users of the product. Health care is not a "right."
Get rid of the insurance company profit motive, and operate our healthcare system like every other highly developed country with high quality of life rankings. Elderly should not have to pay more just because they use more "health care product." This is not addressing stipulations of median household income level as well.
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