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Old 03-05-2018, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Lots of funny myths in there, but this one is beyond the pale. California is right in the middle of the pack. Wisconsin is only 4-5 steps above it, and falling.

The weather is fantastic there (at least in SF, OMG, it was a dream), the food devine, and the outdoor opportunities some of the best in the Nation, along with Colorado.
I don't believe this. Wisconsin is near the top in graduation rates, ACT/SAT scores and student testing. The states in the upper midwest and New England always score near the top with excellent results. California ranks near the bottom in the 40's of the top 50 states along with Mississippi and New Mexico. Wisconsin students outperform California by a large margin. I guess this a good way to rank school success. Google the above mentioned and it will spell it out very clearly. Please explain this myth to me and back it up.

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Old 03-05-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I don't believe this. Wisconsin is near the top in graduation rates, ACT/SAT scores and student testing. The states in the upper midwest and New England always score near the top with excellent results. California ranks near the bottom in the 40's of the top 50 states along with Mississippi and New Mexico. Wisconsin students outperform California by a large margin. I guess this a good way to rank school success. Google the above mentioned and it will spell it out very clearly. Please explain this myth to me and back it up.


Wisconsin 18


California 26


On this list:


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ings/education


There are loads of lists with differing methodology. But both are generally in the middle of the pack.
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Old 03-05-2018, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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On the us.news list California ranks 44 for K-12, no surprise. As far as University/College, yes California does have many top schools, but public school K-12 it ranks near the very bottom with a bunch of states from the deep souths and the west just as I stated in my previous post.
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Old 03-05-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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On the us.news list California ranks 44 for K-12, no surprise. As far as University/College, yes California does have many top schools, but public school K-12 it ranks near the very bottom with a bunch of states from the deep souths and the west just as I stated in my previous post.


So you just care about k-12? Nice low standards you have there... that's the direction of Wisconsin, reduce standards!
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Old 03-05-2018, 08:08 PM
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Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
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On the us.news list California ranks 44 for K-12, no surprise. As far as University/College, yes California does have many top schools, but public school K-12 it ranks near the very bottom with a bunch of states from the deep souths and the west just as I stated in my previous post.
That's because you are looking at the overall averages. The best K-12 schools are in California. The overall public school scores here are weighed down by a large % of immigrants who don't go on to college. But if you are not an immigrant, the education system here is unsurpassed. Only FL and MD barely have better good high schools in 2017, and Florida is weird because they have a lot less schools in their ranking system than would be expected so their % may be skewed.

https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...states-compare

Wisconsin has 6 gold medal rated schools, or 1.2% and CA has 85, or 4%. For silver medals, nobody comes close to our 501 schools. Students who transfer here from out of state often struggle to catch up to their peers. There is a whole industry of tutors here who work for families of incoming students.

CA: 23.6% of high schools ranked silver or above. WI: 14.2%. Which isn't bad...
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Old 03-05-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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Intelligence ranking by state: Wisconsin #5

Where is California? I lost track counting, somewhere way down on the list.

50 states ranked by intelligence scores


Updated on June 6, 2016 at 6:52 AM Posted on June 6, 2016 at 6:01 AM

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Which state is home to the smartest people?
If you had to pick the state that was home to the smartest people in the U.S., which one would you choose?

Wonder no more.

The Washington Post ventured to rank each state based on intelligence. Specifically, the rankings were determined by IQ, 2015 SAT scores, 2015ACT scores and the percentage of college graduates in the state (you can see where all that data came from here.)

Using those factors, Massachusetts came in as the smartest state; Hawaii the dumbest. And Alabama? Read on but here's a hint - it's not great.

Intelligence by state, ranked from most to least intelligent:

Massachusetts
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Connecticut
Wisconsin
Kansas
Vermont
Iowa
New Jersey
Colorado
South Dakota
Nebraska
Virginia
North Dakota
Illinois
Missouri
New York
Ohio
Maine
Maryland
Michigan
Montana
Washington
Utah
Wyoming
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Oregon
Delaware
Oklahoma
Kentucky
Indiana
Tennessee
California
Idaho
Arkansas
Alaska
Georgia
Texas
New Mexico
Arizona
North Carolina
Louisiana
West Virginia
South Carolina
Florida
Alabama
Mississippi
Nevada
Hawaii
Why did Alabama land at number 47? The state was below the national norm in IQ, ACT scores and the percentage of college graduates. It was above the national norm in SAT scores.
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Old 03-05-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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Congrats California you beat out Louisiana and Mississippi in the IQ battle.


Highest IQ By Individual US States



The United States IQ average worldwide is ranked at number 24 with an average IQ of 98.

Based upon the rating of McDaniel’s Estimated Average IQ Score, the following US States have an average IQ rating of the following.

1. Massachusetts: 104.3
2. New Hampshire: 104.2
3. North Dakota: 103.8
4. Vermont: 103.8
5. Minnesota: 103.7
6. Maine: 103.4
7. Montana: 103.4
8. Iowa: 103.2
9. Connecticut: 103.1
10. Wisconsin: 102.9
11. Kansas: 102.8
12. New Jersey: 102.8
13. South Dakota: 102.8
14. Wyoming: 102.4
15. Nebraska: 102.3
16. Virginia: 101.9
17. Washington: 101.9
18. Ohio: 101.8
19. Indiana: 101.7
20. Colorado: 101.6
21. Pennsylvania: 101.5
22. Idaho: 101.4
23. Oregon: 101.2
24. Utah: 101.1
25. Missouri: 101
26. New York: 100.7
27. Michigan: 100.5
28. Delaware: 100.4
29. N. Carolina: 100.2
30. Texas: 100
31. Illinois: 99.9
32. Maryland: 99.7
33. Rhode Island: 99.5
34. Kentucky: 99.4
35. Oklahoma: 99.3
36. Alaska: 99
37. W. Virginia: 98.7
38. Florida: 98.4
39. S. Carolina: 98.4
40. Georgia: 98
41. Tennessee: 97.7
42. Arkansas: 97.5
43. Arizona: 97.4
44. Nevada: 96.5
45. Alabama: 95.7
46. New Mexico: 95.7
47. Hawaii: 95.6
48. California: 95.5
49. Louisiana: 95.3
50. Mississippi: 94.2

Why IQ Matters

The following infographic outlines the definition and understanding of IQ and why it matters in measuring intelligence in today’s society. The earliest intelligence test was developed in 1905 by a French educationist.
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:05 PM
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Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
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Still reaching eh? There is always cheese production, we are 2nd place behind America's Dairyland. I will wish I lived in Wisconsin the next time I'm flying over it and yearning for cheese.
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Old 03-06-2018, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Verona, WI
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Still reaching eh? There is always cheese production, we are 2nd place behind America's Dairyland. I will wish I lived in Wisconsin the next time I'm flying over it and yearning for cheese.
I like Wisconsin cheese too, but I had some California cheese last week and it was pretty happy stuff. You all are not suffering out there in that regard.
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Old 03-06-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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mmmm cheese - I do miss WI cheese.
There is some good stuff here in OR, but not the variety back there.

This post has gotten silly with the "CA vs WI" dynamic.

Reminds me of grade school playground i.e. "My dad can beat up your dad."
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