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Old 10-17-2020, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Bay View, Milwaukee
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Check the geographical distribution...Just what you'd expect from something like an infectious agent that spreads like electricity from one place to the adjacent places.
Check the numbers. The Green Bay and Fox Valley area, including rural zones, have a much higher case index than do other highly interconnected regions, such as Southeast Wisconsin.

It's possible that precautions and protocols, including mask-wearing, explain some of the difference between the two regions.

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Going back to the new research I mentioned earlier here: coming in contact with an infected person & frequenting bars & restaurants was associated with a 2.5x higher risk of becoming infected, while mask wearing behavior was not associated with an increased or decreased risk in either the infected nor non-infected group.
A wise man once said that if you torture the numbers enough you can get the numbers to confess to anything.

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If you go near the virus, the mask doesn't help.
That doesn't take into account the info I posted earlier. They suggest that if you go near the virus, the mask may help, depending on the material, how it's worn, etc.

Of course, if you choose to discard some studies and accept others, that's up to you, but it doesn't seem like a careful approach.

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Those Deplorables out in the boonies just like to party. The population density inside a country roadhouse on a Saturday night is as high as that in a Madison Starbucks at any time, I guess.
Did you notice that the case index for Dane County is relatively low?
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Old 10-17-2020, 09:00 PM
 
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The Wisconsin culture is well...............different. Fish fries, taverns everywhere, cheeseheads. Culver's. Walmarts full of guns and people in fatigues, and just dumb uneducated people in small towns who swear by Trump and his cult followers. Covid away!
If I could vote to have a post removed, because of an ignorant bias, this would be one of them. Stereotypical hogwash, spewed by someone with a superiority complex. If I'm banned because of this post, so be it.
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Old 10-17-2020, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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If Dane county numbers are low that's pretty impressive for the county outside of the university itself considering more than 3,000 UW-Madison students have contracted COVID-19.

https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/e...6c8b7d108.html
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Old 10-19-2020, 07:05 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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I never considered Madison part of the great state of Wisconsin I knew well years ago. It's become socialist heaven. The rest of the state still harbors the majority of sane folks IMHO. I hate to see it go to that other direction, but it's up to you folks to determine if you want to be the start of the socialist movement in this country as your own reality, or maintain America as it has been in all other areas of goodness. If you hate America that much it's time to head out otherwise. I'm ready to see, as he's said, Bruce Springsteen to move to Australia if we maintain our current president. I'd pay for his plane ticket....
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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By the way it's the China virus. If biden had been prez, we would all be dead!!!!!!!! Why? Trump put a ban on Chinese coming here immediately Joe did not want that. Why is that? Think.
our big problem came to new york from europe. think?
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:11 AM
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Location: Up North
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I dream of a day in which we don't feel the need to politicize every. single. thing.

We could have came at this from a million different angles and still ended up with the exact same results. It is what it is.
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Old 10-22-2020, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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Report: At Least 130,000 Covid-19 Deaths Were Avoidable, Trump Administration An ‘Abject Failure’ from: https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth...bject-failure/
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Old 10-22-2020, 03:59 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Another example of massaging numbers to show what you've pre-determined them to show for political purposes.

The US death rate is exactly what the world-wide experience shows;

US death rate-- 226052 deaths /8478623 cases= 2.7%

world-- 11220652/ 40652097 = 2.8%

Germany-- 10014/ 393537 =2.5%
WI- 1707/ 192235 = 0.9%

Don't forget US figures are grossly misrepresented by the NY experience: 20% of US deaths with only 4% of the population.

Germany, USA & world figures are all within +/- 2SD of the mean, ie- statistically indistinguishable.

Are the bad results in NY and the good results in WI due to some fundamental difference in the handling, genetics, differential social interactions, etc...or just one of those things, statistical aberrations?

Can we trust data coming out of Africa, China, Russia, et al?

I've spent a life time professionally scrutinizing research literature. Trust me- 90% of it is crap not worth the paper it's printed on.
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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Another example of massaging numbers to show what you've pre-determined them to show for political purposes.

The US death rate is exactly what the world-wide experience shows;

US death rate-- 226052 deaths /8478623 cases= 2.7%

world-- 11220652/ 40652097 = 2.8%

Germany-- 10014/ 393537 =2.5%
WI- 1707/ 192235 = 0.9%

Don't forget US figures are grossly misrepresented by the NY experience: 20% of US deaths with only 4% of the population.

Germany, USA & world figures are all within +/- 2SD of the mean, ie- statistically indistinguishable.

Are the bad results in NY and the good results in WI due to some fundamental difference in the handling, genetics, differential social interactions, etc...or just one of those things, statistical aberrations?

Can we trust data coming out of Africa, China, Russia, et al?

I've spent a life time professionally scrutinizing research literature. Trust me- 90% of it is crap not worth the paper it's printed on.
so ... trump lied and people died?
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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so ... trump lied and people died?
In February 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump enforced a complete ban on travel from mainland China, a signature policy move that helped save many lives from the spread of COVID-19 in the U.S. Biden did not want this. He called it "zenophobic".
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