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Old 12-05-2021, 05:22 PM
 
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Another variation on disenfranchisement, unfortunately.

Something to keep an eye on.


Sen. Ron Johnson, a Republican, said that GOP state lawmakers should unilaterally assert control of federal elections, claiming that they had the authority to do so even if Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, stood in their way — an extraordinary legal argument debunked by a 1932 Supreme Court decision and a 1964 ruling from the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

https://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-rep...153808091.html
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Another variation on disenfranchisement, unfortunately.

Something to keep an eye on.


Sen. Ron Johnson, a Republican, said that GOP state lawmakers should unilaterally assert control of federal elections, claiming that they had the authority to do so even if Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, stood in their way — an extraordinary legal argument debunked by a 1932 Supreme Court decision and a 1964 ruling from the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

https://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-rep...153808091.html
Anyone with half a brain knows that Ron Johnson is not for democracy.
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Old 12-06-2021, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Anyone with half a brain knows that Ron Johnson is not for democracy.
Well, unless I am very much mistaken, he is against vaccine mandates.
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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You present a highly inflamative, partisan article from the NYT as your evidence that Ron Johnson hates Democracy??

Awesome

The word "disenfranchisement" is going to be a new fun term for the Left - just like "systematic racism."
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Old 12-06-2021, 01:38 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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The word "disenfranchisement" is going to be a new fun term for the Left - just like "systematic racism."
Neither are fun, nor due, and both have sadly been cornerstones of our country since its founding. Heck, both were written in black and white into the country's founding documents. There can be zero denying that. Unless a person hasn't read or studied any of them. There is quite a bit of that around.
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Old 12-07-2021, 10:37 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Anyone with half a brain knows that Ron Johnson is not for democracy.

...and those of us with full brains know that the "Election Reforms" pushed by The Left are merely claculated to increase the ease by which one may cheat. How can anyone interested in holding fair elections argue that a potential voter must be able to prove they are elegible to vote, and that a completed ballot has not been completed nor tampered with by another party (pun intended)?

...and The Constitution clearly states that election rules & regs are to be established by The States individually, and there's no doubt our Legislature is in charge of that, not a dictatorial executive branch.
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Old 12-08-2021, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Neither are fun, nor due, and both have sadly been cornerstones of our country since its founding. Heck, both were written in black and white into the country's founding documents. There can be zero denying that. Unless a person hasn't read or studied any of them. There is quite a bit of that around.



Nah - you are just regurgitating melodrama like "all cops are bad" and "global warming is going to change life as we know it" - blah-blah blah.


Readers and studied people know Democrat policies hurt people and are wise. Thus Democrats are stuck with fake social melodrama (no metrics either) as a means to try and remain viable.


Sad really.



NO one is stealing elections except Democrats by attempting to make is easy to create votes from thin air.
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Old 12-08-2021, 05:03 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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NO one is stealing elections except Democrats by attempting to make is easy to create votes from thin air.
Good old far right opposite land. They keep claiming this despite zero evidence after searches on top of searches. Their own Republican hired investigators found absolutely no evidence of any of this happening. Just more of the fake news cycle.

Oh wait, there was actually some systematic fraud found in one state a few years back. Republican party official was convicted.

https://www.wxii12.com/article/north...uilty/36792217

Remain viable? Democrats dominate the popular vote. It's just more opposite land nonsense.
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Old 12-08-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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...and those of us with full brains know that the "Election Reforms" pushed by The Left are merely claculated to increase the ease by which one may cheat. How can anyone interested in holding fair elections argue that a potential voter must be able to prove they are elegible to vote, and that a completed ballot has not been completed nor tampered with by another party (pun intended)?

...and The Constitution clearly states that election rules & regs are to be established by The States individually, and there's no doubt our Legislature is in charge of that, not a dictatorial executive branch.
No, here are the facts when Johnson isn't putting on a show of feigned ignorance of reality.

"Biden got 7,052,770 more votes than Trump, earning a higher percentage of the popular vote than any challenger to a sitting president since Franklin Roosevelt beat Herbert Hoover in 1932.

Those figures were known at the time that Johnson held his Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing. So, too, were the results of the December 14 Electoral College vote, which confirmed Biden’s defeat of Trump by a 306-232 margin.

Yet Johnson continued to peddle Trump’s Big Lie—even going so far as to support a bogus audit of the election results that has been promoted in recent weeks by Trump-aligned Wisconsin legislators.

The Undercurrent, has distributed a tape of the conversation on social media. Johnson said during what he apparently thought was a private conversation, “There’s nothing obviously skewed about the results.” He even told Windsor that Trump lost because he had underperformed as compared to other Republicans. “If all the Republicans voted for Trump the way they voted for the Assembly candidates, he would have won,” said the senator. “He didn’t get 51,000 votes that other Republicans got, and that’s why he lost.”
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Old 12-08-2021, 08:12 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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"Biden got 7,052,770 more votes than Trump, ....
Correction-- Biden was credited with more votes than Trump....Given the ease with which absentee votes could be tampered with due to the liberlization of the regs, and the computerized counting of votes (how do you think the slot machines in Vegas are programmed to give the desired number of winners?) whch the providers refuse to allow independent scrutiny thereof.

Smells fishy. It probably is fishy...If there was adequate transparency of the process, we skeptics would be silenced. Why the resistence from The Left? You don't plea The Fifth unless you have reason to.

It doesn't take the discreditation of all 7 million votes to change the lection results-- just a few thousand in each of a half dozen tight states. Certainly plausable and worthy of serious investigation.
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