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Old 06-05-2006, 11:38 AM
 
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Greendale, I would say no because it is basically greenfield. The same area but smaller community with same issues as greenfield.

Knoll; I worked and lived in Wauwatosa for several years. Wauwatosa is considered a suburb ok. But in my opinion it does not have quality of life as some suburbs. Wauwatosa has seen increased crime east of the city, northwest side of the city. i worked with the wauwatosa police dept. for years and let me tell you they have their hands full. My old friend who is the Chief of Police Chief Weber is struggling to try and keep the city safe. He stated that crime will only increase if the city does not add more officers.

Do you recall the latest string of burglaries and armed robberies on North avenue which is the downtown area and heart of Wauwatosa? Businesses have left the area in the last decade. Most have moved west along the border of Brookfield and Elm Grove. These areas are much nicer communities and the homes for sale in the area are $250k or above in this area of Wauwatosa. The homes are small for the price. There is the highlands area of Wauwatosa which is where I once lived but the housing prices in this area is $300k minimum. you may find one or two slightly priced lower, MAYBE.

I would consider St. Francis, Wi or South Milwaukee. Shorewood is a nice area with homes in the median range of $225k. The area has nice schools and is east of milwaukee. The downside is depending where you live in Shorewood it is near UWM. I would say as long as you are not to close to UWM campus you will be okay. they can get rowdy from college parties and trash the neighborhood. As far as diversity goes I really do not want to speak on because it may appear negative. I will say that Greater milwaukee area is pretty segregated.

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Old 06-05-2006, 11:55 AM
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Hey guys, thank you so much for these info...

I did checkout on apartmentreview that some Oak Creek apartments have problem with teens partying at night and denting cars. Also few of Rentals have bad management.
Any tips on what to look for , if the place is nice or not? (neighborhood in particular). We will check Oak Creek apartments on Thurs. but will only see those places during the day. Some places from my experience look good during daylight but hell at night...(No parkings, vandals, noisy teen partying, drag racing...etc).


Wish me luck guys!

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Old 06-05-2006, 12:33 PM
 
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Greendale, Greenfield and Wauwatosa are still worlds away from inner-city Milwaukee and most of the metro Chicago area.

You aren't going to hear gunfire or worry about being mugged in your front yard like you would in a lot of other areas. Just as any other place - it depends on where you are in the city or village.

I don't consider the area off of North Ave as "the heart" of Tosa. I consider "The Village" the heart - off State and 76th.

And the area to the east - Washington Heights - has only gotten better and prices are increasing. Also, Enderis Park and Mount Mary to the north - same thing. Very popular with City of Milwaukee employees that must live in the City.

If you want diversity, you won't find too much of it in the Ozaukee, Waukesha or Washington counties. (Except the City of Waukesha.) Most of the far south side is blue collar folks - decent, hard-working people but not as educated nor worldly, IMO. And no schools can compare to the North Shore. Arrowhead is pretty close, but they are low on the diversity scale, as well.

But I'd send my kid to Greenfield, Greendale, Oak Creek, Franklin or Wauwatosa before most MPS schools in a heartbeat - you could do a lot worse.

And if I wanted excellent schools and quality of life with diverse cultures, I'd probably live in Shorewood or Glendale before anything else. JMHO.

And the OP is looking for a rental, I think. So real estate prices probably won't help much.

I just saw your edit:

There are many, many areas that are VERY diverse - Bay View, Riverwest, Washington Heights, Lenox Heights, the north side, Glendale, Brown Deer, Sherman Park, St. Joseph's area...I can go on and on.

The only people that think of Milwaukee as "segregated" are those that haven't been exposed to other areas of Milwaukee, except those that have primarily one culture. If you grew up in an all white pocket, you could look at Riverwest and think that it's all black - until you actually live there.

Sure, there are some areas that are more African-American, Latino-American or European-American, but Milwaukee has long been a city of "neighborhoods." I would say it is more segregated economically than racially. Yes, poorer people end up in certain areas - the same areas where the poorer Irish and Polish ended up in the 1800's. As these folks get more established, they migrate north and west - African Americans in Milwaukee are following that same path and the Latino newcomers, as well. As they better themselves, just as the white immigrants before them, they seek a better quality of life and move out of the inner-city neighborhoods.

To me, "segregated" impies something which is "enforced" and that simply is not the case in Milwaukee. As a matter of fact, we celebrate our different cultures together (see our summer festivals) and have lots of diverse neighborhoods.
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:36 PM
 
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Hey guys, thank you so much for these info...

I did checkout on apartmentreview that some Oak Creek apartments have problem with teens partying at night and denting cars. Also few of Rentals have bad management.
Any tips on what to look for , if the place is nice or not? (neighborhood in particular). We will check Oak Creek apartments on Thurs. but will only see those places during the day. Some places from my experience look good during daylight but hell at night...(No parkings, vandals, noisy teen partying, drag racing...etc).


Wish me luck guys!
I doubt you'll run into much of that in Oak Creek. If teen parties and car dents are the worst of your problems, I would say you're doing OK. LOL!

Just look for well kept grounds and buildings - both your rental prospect and surrounding buildings - and that says a lot about an area.
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:57 PM
 
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Knoll; You covered everything!!! you hit the nail on the head. Milwaukee is comprised mainly of neighborhoods. I agree with the segregation based on economics. I left wauwatosa because of crime in the area. I agree the village is the heart to the night life of Tosa. I agree there are so many areas to choose. I would suggest speaking to the local police department in the area of interest and get some information from them about crime trends in the community. They are more than willing to help. i would also suggest that once you choose an area to reside look around milwaukee and see what it has to offer. You will find there is many wonderful places to live. I wish you the best!
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:43 PM
 
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Agreed! Greater Milwaukee offers something for everyone. I love living here and it is a great place to raise a family!

Most transferees are amazed that it's not just some hick "Laverne & Shirley" town - yes we have beer and brats, but we also have WiFi and Starbucks and Crate & Barrel, etc. and a world class museum, art museum, performing arts, music and ethnic festivals. We have a beautiful beach just off downtown and a phenominal park system. The schools - even MPS - are better than most metro/urban cities around the country. And I often hear from transferees that the people here are REALLY nice compared to other parts of the States, too!

All the conveniences of a big city (and some of the drawbacks) yet a small town atmosphere. I'd recommend it to anyone!
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:59 PM
 
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I also want to comment that, while we have many "neighborhoods" that give the appearence of segregation, Milwaukee has also long been in the forefront of social programs to help minorities and the poor (and we pay higher taxes as a result. Just ask anyone coming in from other states. LOL)

We had a socialist government for a very long time. The welfare program was so comparatively generous, it drew poor folks from Illinois and further south for a long time - especially African Americans fleeing the (truly) segregated south, to live with relatives in the north - making the poorer areas of Milwaukee even larger.

People sometimes forget that - when complaining about a high percentage of poor and unemployed in Milwaukee. I'd love to see a census done of the poorer areas of Milwaukee that asks how many over 30 years old were actually born here or how many had grandparents that came up from the South or even Illinois. (Not that they shouldn't have moved here - just to make the point that the areas "evolved" because of the BENEFITS for these people to move here and it wasn't set up that way on purpose.) It was almost like taking in "refugees."
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Old 06-05-2006, 02:31 PM
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Good point Knoll.

What I like about Milwaukee

1) Laid-back atmosphere.
2) Healthcare jobs seems to pay a lot higher compare here.
(I got a job offer $8 more than starting out here in Chicago burbs) - Is the income tax higher in Milwaukee, that is why the job offer is high? Will I get a good TAX refund? LOL!
3) I`m atleast , somehow protected by the 2nd Amendment. (I don`t see Daley and Blago blaming pro guns) No matter how much they banned guns in Chicago, criminals do not have law to follow, they can get guns anyhwhere. Now good citizen of Chicago can`t own handgun at home to protect them.
4) Traffic in Milwaukee? I went there last May 10th for my interview. I noticed around 6:00 pm downtown area was already deserted....When I woke up in the morning of my interview, I was expecting a heavy downtown traffic congestion, but there were no traffic at all. (KNowing the fact that there is a big construction goin on).
5) Low cost of living

What I hate about Wisconsin:

1) Now Chicagoan will officially call me CHEESE HEAD! LOL!
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:08 AM
 
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Depending when you will accept the job in the downtown Milwaukee area, you might want to know the interstate is under construction and will be for quite awhile. So depending which facility you will be working you might want to consider numerous suburbs. I lived in New Berlin for over 20 years, which is just south of Brookfield nice area and nice schools. New Berlin would be a 20 minute comunte under normal circumstances. New Berlin is a nice community movie theatre, grocery stores, target, walmart.

There is a website out there Compare cities, which may help
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:01 AM
 
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What about Mukwonago for living. We want a small town. Also it seems the main body of runners meet at Lake Park north part of Milwaukee is that a safe drive and good place for running?
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